Ep. 11 DIY Custom Bumpers & Rock Sliders on Jeep Cherokee XJ – Rene Guignard Interview Part 2

🔧 Part 2: Rene Guignard Interview – Custom Bumpers, Rock Sliders & Real-World XJ Builds | XJTalk Classic We’re back with the second half of our conversation with Rene Guignard! After a surprise power outage hit Houston, we finally get the show rolling and dive deep into real DIY Jeep Cherokee modifications. In this episode: – Custom front and rear bumpers built from scratch (recovery points, winch mount, and that eye-catching bright green paint!) – Rock sliders – what worked, what he’d change, and why they’re essential even in Texas mud – Fender trimming, fiberglass options, tube flares, and learning to live with body damage when you actually wheel hard – Rear bumper reinforcement after a real-world rear-end hit – Scrapyard metal tips, welding advice, and why grinders are your best friend – Southeast Texas gumbo mudding vs rocks, and why momentum and line choice matter more than tires Rene shares honest lessons from years of wheeling his XJ — no fancy bolt-on parts, just good old-fashioned fabrication and problem-solving. 🎙️ Originally aired on XJTalk.com — 10 years of innovating, not imitating. If you’re into building your own bumpers, sliders, or just love hearing real Jeepers talk shop, this one’s for you. 00:00 Power Outage Intro & Interview Setup 02:06 Sponsor Plug and Show Opening 03:05 Call‑In Voicemail Invitation 03:34 Site Praise and Unpolished Show Notice 04:11 Chat Silence and No Q&A 05:20 Part Two Interview Begins 06:16 Jeep Lift, Tires, and Custom Bumpers 12:44 Off‑Road Challenges: Mud vs Rocks 14:43 Power Limits and Off‑Road Appeal 15:17 Bumper Tow Points and Winching 15:59 Front Bumper Used for Recovery 17:52 Functional Bumper Design Goal 18:58 First Bumper Built for Recovery 19:56 Bumper Build Time and Cost 21:18 DIY Metal Fabrication & Trailer Hitch 26:32 Jeep Sliders Design and Usage 35:03 Hybrid Cage and Headroom Solution 36:11 Introducing Helpful Tips Segment 37:46 Show Wrap‑Up and Future Schedule 40:38 Listener Questions, Jokes, and Chili Promo 44:53 Chili Advertising Pitch 45:39 Ironman Sponsor and Tips Overview 47:47 Applying Knowledge for Listeners 48:41 Jeep Simplicity and Personal Stories 51:06 Final Farewell and Closing 👉 Leave your questions or comments — we may read them on a future show! 📞 Voicemail: (530) 675-4102 Leave your name, location, and tip or question! 🔗 Visit the site: https://xjtalk.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/XJTalk Twitter: https://twitter.com/XJTalk 👍 Like | 🔔 Subscribe | 💬 Comment your favorite DIY mod! #JeepCherokee #XJBuild #XJTalk #CustomBumpers #RockSliders #DIYJeep #OffRoad #JeepLife #HoustonJeeps #XJMods “` Visit our website: https://jeeptalkshow.com/ Watch/Listen on Spotify https://jeeptalkshow.com/spotify Join our Discord Server: https://jeeptalkshow.com/discord Subscribe to our newsletter: https://jeeptalkshow.com/newsletter Help Support the show via Patreon: https://jeeptalkshow.com/patreon

Episode Transcript

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Well, many of you are sorely aware of the power outage today. Yes, unfortunately in Houston, Texas we’re not used to having anything in the 20 degree range. And apparently they didn’t, they being the power company, didn’t put enough power, build in enough power into the system to be able to handle everybody’s heater being on. Now my heater is gas powered so I don’t know. I’m doing my part.

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I think we had about four hours total power outage here today at the XJTalk.com studios.

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And I use that term loosely.

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Well, I guess first off I should say, my name’s Tony Nutteroy on XJTalk.com and tonight will be the second half of the greenie Arganard interview. Did I say enter? Interview.

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I want to thank everybody for showing up to the show an hour late. Not you, but me. I’m an hour late. But I had a good excuse. Did I mention we were without power?

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If I had a bleep button I would have used the word.

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Jim’s favorite word.

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We’ll get started here in just a minute. I don’t know if Renee’s going to be able to make it with us tonight because he gets up at the crack of 3 a.m. every day.

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We’ll get it started here in just a second.

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XJTalk.com. 10 years of innovating, not imitating XJ products. Check out www.detoursusa.com. And Detours makes you remind everyone to practice safe sex. No pig-borking till you wrap that rascal.

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got our weight for the pig.

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XJTalk.com. XJTalk.com. It’s where you go when you’re not off-road.

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Do you have questions or comments that you would like played on the air? We’ve set up voicemail just for that purpose. All you have to do is call 530-675-4102. Just leave your name, your location,

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and your question or comment. Chances are good it’ll get played on the air.

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That number again is 530-675-4102. We look forward to hearing from you today.

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Hey, I just wanted to tell you about XJTalk.com. It’s a great site. There’s no bashing. Everybody’s nice and friendly. Great place to be.

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Well, that’s only partially true.

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We do have bashing on bashing night. But everybody enjoys it.

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XJTalk.com. XJTalk.com. It’s where you go when you’re not off-road.

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Okay, guys.

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It’s not going to be the normal polished show that you’re so accustomed to since I normally have about two hours to get things together and going prior to the actual broadcast.

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So it’s just going to be what you get tonight.

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But I think it’s all right. I’ve been doing it long enough where I think

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I’ve got it down

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fairly well.

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I agree.

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So what’s up with you guys? I see we’ve got a whopping three people

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in the chat room.

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says number of viewers is 2. And I still haven’t looked up what that 14 means.

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Oh, and I need to change this to part 2 of

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2.

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Reani interview.

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Yeah, see, these little things like this should have been taken care of by the staff.

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So you guys are very silent in the chat room, are you? Is it stunned silence?

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Let’s see, Weldman, Stefan, Punisher.

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And that’s it.

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And Reani hasn’t responded yet. I wonder if he’s already in bed.

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Yes, that’s what he says. I asked him if he was in. He says, nope, go into bed. Well, good. We’re going to be talking to him. So there will be no Q&A tonight of Mr. Reani.

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Let me,

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see. I got a tan today. Punisher says everybody else has power problems too.

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Weldman says, me too, I was welding though.

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I guess that was because that was your power problem. Stefan says, wow, you pronounced my name very correctly.

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Stefan B74.

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Oh, and I just got notification from site uptime, which is an internet service,

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telling me that the xjtalk.com website is back up. Good to know.

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Okay, I’ll join you guys here in the chat room in just a second. Let’s get this interview, part two of Reani Arganard from xjtalk.com, his interview.

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Five.

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And here we are back with part two of the interview with Reani Arganard from xjtalk.com.

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And my name is Tony

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Mutteroy on xjtalk.

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Reani, thanks for sticking around for this second half.

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Oh, no problem. I enjoy it.

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So what I was thinking, we left off on the last

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bit of the interview where we were talking about what it is that you need to go off-road, which is

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basically the Jeep.

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Of course, we believe it’s the Jeep Cherokee. And some recovery points

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and, you know, maybe a winch if you can swing it.

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But

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think that some of the things that you’ve added to yours, because, you know, even though you have a lift, it’s not a four and a half inch, a six and a half inch lift. And you’ve certainly been able to go a bunch of places just because of the ability of the Jeep and having the rear axle locked. But

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you did put some recovery points on your vehicle by way of custom bumpers.

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Yes, I did.

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What I actually did, I, you know, like everybody else who has a Jeep like ours,

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I started out with,

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you know, three and a half inch lift. They can now only put 31s on it. I’ll never go any bigger. But what was that wrong? I wish I would have went four and a half. In all honesty, I wish I went four and a half and went 33s from the get-go. I didn’t do that. Now I’ve ended up cutting my fenders and putting 33s on it. But,

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you know, it works for me. I got to the point where mine, I got to look at my Jeep one day and I said, you know,

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I got to make a decision if I’m going to wheel it,

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you know, and not care about body damage or if I’m going to start, you know, maybe not wheeling it so hard

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kind of keep the body looking pretty like yours. And, well, as you can tell, I gave up on the body work.

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Well, I mean, you know, that’s a great plan. But unless you have the funds to buy another vehicle or you’re just not going to go out and have fun with it anymore, you know, that’s really your only choice is you get to get another one or decide I’m not going to drive it off-road. And if you’re going to drive it off-road, you don’t wheel it hard. You drive it like I do. I take it easy. Of course, I get into a situation where I’m saying, you know, damn, I don’t want to get up that embankment and then I do some damage.

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mine is very minor and more cosmetic than anything else. You’ve certainly, with just the oversized tires that you’ve used, and when I say oversized tires, tires that were really too big for the size lift that you had, you know, you’ve really done some things, some, I don’t want to say damage, but you really pushed some fenders in with those tires.

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Yeah, I really

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mutilated my,

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yeah, pretty much mutilated my front fenders by doing what I did. Oh, and actually, this wasn’t the direction I was going with this, but now that I remember, now that I say that, I remember you talking about potentially going with some customized fiberglass fenders. Fiberglass, right?

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Yeah, that’s what I was actually thinking.

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Yeah, those things are pretty– I was actually looking at the prerunner fenders, that some of the guys in the prerunner type Jeep, the Jeep Speed people use,

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they have a, it’s cut

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probably as much or maybe even a little more than mine, but it’s also extended six inches out. So that way it covers up some of these big tires. And for some of you who have Jeeps in states that have fender flare

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requirements, them fenders might not be a bad idea for you all. I found them on one online site for like $160 for the pair.

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Now, of course, it’s also $90 to ship them to the Continental 48, but,

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you know, it’s a thought. And I may still go that way with mine. I haven’t made up my mind for sure. The only thing I’m a little concerned with is fiberglass and trees don’t get along. That was going to be my next question, was how are you going to address that potential issue? Because, I mean,

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they’re actually–

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it sounds like they cost about as much as some bushwhacker flares, if you were just to buy two of them.

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But, gosh, the bushwhacker you can kind of take off and throw on the ground and keep going.

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You crack that fender, I guess, you wind up with duct tape.

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Well, yeah, I guess that would go along with the rest of my Jeep.

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But,

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no, actually, you know, I kind of know what I would do.

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I’ve been thinking in the works about making me some tube-type flares

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out of, you know, steel, and I’m going to actually weld them to my

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rock rails and my front bumper. And if I decided to go with the fiberglass fenders, I would just make them a little bigger than what I originally thought, you know, kind of bring them out right to the edge of the fender. That way, if I were to rub something, I’m actually rubbing the tube instead of the fender. Yeah, I think that would be a great idea. I go back– I can’t remember who it was, but I go back to the guy on the site that built some of those tube fenders. And there was a picture of him standing on them

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with them mounted to the Jeep. And I thought those things really looked good and certainly were very strong. I mean, he wasn’t a 250-pound gentleman, but certainly in the 150-180 range. So they were substantial.

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Anyway, going back to the bumpers that you made that gave you the tow points so that you could be pulled out and also to have the ability to mount a winch. Those were all things that you built yourself.

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Just cut up the metal, envisioned it, cut up the metal and welded it together and painted it a bright green, which I think was just marvelous because that green and the dark color of your Jeep really sets it off. It’s kind of like,

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look at me, get the

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out of the way, something.

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Yeah, it’s really funny because my bumpers do tend to make people move out of your way when you’re running down the road.

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I was noticing that there is a lot of nicks and chips and stuff on your paint. I did not realize

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how much action those bumpers have seen. And I’m talking about the stinger on the front bumper had a lot of marks on it.

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Yeah, I

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wheeled my Jeep pretty hard. I mean, everybody says that you can’t wheel them hard down here. Well, I’ll tell you what.

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I would beg to differ with these people and say, you know, come for a trail ride with us. You might be pleasantly surprised

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what you have to drive your Jeep through, but don’t be afraid to get dirty because you’re going to get dirty down here. Yeah, easily.

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I guess we’re kind of lucky at

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Creekside that it’s more sand than it is mud because

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I know closer to Galveston and, you know, the bay and Gulf of Mexico, you get closer to the

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gumbo, that stuff, that mud that is,

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gosh, it almost leaps off the ground and sticks to you. It’s so sticky.

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And after watching that video that Scott, XJ4IV, put up on the side, I understand why he doesn’t like mud.

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Oh, yeah, that one where he’s like not even stuck, but he’s just spinning on top and he’s throwing up these big gray corks of crap. Yeah,

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and he was just he was stuck there. And then I saw him in the video. He’s out of the Jeep and he’s sinking down in it. I think he was better off in the Jeep than he was out of it.

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Oh, I know. He said he was actually telling me he lost a pair of rubber boots in that mud. Yeah, it is. It is really it just sucks. It sucks, you know, sticks to you and sucks things off of you. And it’s just amazing. I mean, that to me is what being off road is because that was whenever I was, you know, twenty to twenty four. And I had my first four wheel drive in Baytown. That’s the kind of off road mudding. And when I hear people say, you know, mud’s nothing, you know, you need to get rocks red challenge or rocks or more challenging. No, you get into gumbo. It’s very challenging.

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And you know, you get in a type of mud that that that video was taken in. It matters. None. What tires you have.

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No, you can have, you know, 3000 horsepower in boggers or paddles in your still

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still not going to go through it.

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You go a little bit. The trick is the line and your forward momentum.

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Yeah, it’s a lot of fun. And of course, the sliding around

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and there’s there’s not as much risk of flipping in the mud as you are in the rocks. And I understand that’s part of the part of the appeal because you’re doing something that not everybody feels comfortable doing.

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But anyway, so you got some tow points. I know that you’ve used the rear bumper because I saw I saw you recovered out of a nice mud hole, water filled mud hole. That was actually the same same place that I saw you. I think that was the first time you had thirty threes on your Jeep. And you bent that fender, the back of the fender, pretty bad trying to go through that hole.

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But you used you got winched out that day from that from the rear bumper.

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Any have you used the the front bumper at all? I mean, as far as somebody went pulling you out or just have you just used it for pulling yourself out using your winch? Actually, both. I have actually used it to pull people, you know, used it to get pulled out of something only because

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I went to a big mud hole that somebody else had just went through and they got winched out. Well, when I got stuck, the other guy was sitting there already with his winch pulled. We just looked at my bumper and pulled me out to instead of unraveling my winch.

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So, yes, I have actually used it as both,

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you know, in running the trees with it. I’ve run into,

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you know, you name it. It’s been a hold. It’s been in it’s been in contact with it. And so far, just as solid as a rock. Now, the

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I know that you got a special deal on the metal that you used to build those bumpers. But if you had to estimate a cost

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in both dollar amount and time, what do you think it would be?

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Dollar amount for the metal probably

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somewhere between 50 and 100 bucks.

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Okay. In all honesty. Time,

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well, being that I’ve built that bumper three times now,

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you could probably buy a set of bumpers for what I have in my front bumper. Only because of how many times I’ve rebuilt it. When I first built it, it was just a solid

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single piece of metal across the front. No contour, no nothing.

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Got sick of looking at that, cut it down, put a taper on the ends.

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Got sick of looking at that, cut it down, and put more of a taper in, angled it into my, you know, into the front end a little bit more. So, yeah, I’ve been through this bumper several times now. Right, but I mean, when you say you could probably buy a bumper, it’s really not a monetary investment more than what you were just saying, 50 or 100 bucks for the materials. It was just a time investment. And

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I would imagine you kind of enjoyed that if not enjoyed doing it, enjoyed the outcome of how your vision came to life on the Jeep.

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Oh, yeah. I wouldn’t. You know, at this point,

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you know, multiple reasons,

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I have a real hard time paying for something I know how to do myself.

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And I guess that’s because, you know,

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everybody who makes bumpers and stuff, most of these people are very good welders.

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And I’m a very good welder. So, you know, I mean,

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I have a hard time paying for something that I know I can make.

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know, I may not mind may not be as nice to some of the other bumpers out there,

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but I know I can do it.

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I could actually make something as nice as yours if I had

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the time to actually sit down and do it. You

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know, the welding and the grinding, I mean, anybody can weld and grind. And that’s one thing for everybody in anybody in everybody who’s thinking about doing that theirself. Remember, grinders are best friends.

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Now, with with a bumper that you built,

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I mean, in I guess in defense of the time that you spent on the bumper and the it’s artistic value, that’s not really the that wasn’t really your goal with this bumper. Your goal was for something that was functional.

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Any kind of

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artistic or wish to make it look better was really the next two or three times that you took a run at it. So, well, I think I’ll try this and I’ll think I try this. And but the ultimate goal was recovery points and protection and, you know, place to put the put the winch.

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Correct. That is the truth. When I put the very first bumper on there,

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would it have worked for everything I wanted to do? Oh, yeah. You know, I knew I was going to put a winch on the Jeep eventually. So when I built the original bumper, I made it

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exactly where it’s at now. It was sitting in the same spot. I’ve just improved from the bumper, you know, the

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bumper mount brackets out is the only improvements I’ve made to it. And then we’re just strictly for make it prettier. But yeah, I

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I knew what I was going to do. I knew I needed recovery points and I knew I was going to put a winch on it. So the very first bumper I built was set up to do that.

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So you if you had to estimate a time that it took you to or not that it took you, but that it would take you knowing what you know now, if you just had the metal and you got out there and you put this thing together, how much time do you think it would take you to build that bumper, you know, for a second time? And I understand that you would probably go a little faster knowing what you know,

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but this would give the listeners an idea how much time investment they would have to put into building their own bumper.

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Honestly, for the front bumper, for the build it exactly what I have now,

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you could probably duplicate it

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and not using big fancy tools. I mean, most of my bumper was cut up with a, you know,

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either a sheesh.

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My bumper, almost all the metal in my bumper was cut with either a sawzall or a grinder

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and welded together with a pretty nice welder.

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I would say you could probably duplicate it in

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half a day, three quarters of a day.

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So certainly a weekend. Certainly a weekend would be able, you could have a bumper for your Jeep. Oh, easily. So, you know, $100, $150 worth of metal, you know, overestimate a little bit. And a weekend, now you’ve got your own custom bumper on your Jeep and you have a place to put a winch if you choose to get one and a place to put lights, all kinds of stuff. So

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it’s something that anybody can do if you have access to a welder. And I would assume that you could even do that with an arc welder that you could rent.

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Oh, yes, you could.

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I get mine with a MIG welder, only because that’s what I have access to more than anything.

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And for anybody who is thinking about doing something like this,

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always remember if you have a scrapyard around,

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they sell metal as well as buy it.

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Well, that’s interesting.

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They did not know that.

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They will sell it by the pound just like they do buy it by the pound.

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So, yeah, if you actually go in there and say, “Hey, look, I’m looking for some 2×4 square tubing, 6 foot long,

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do you have any?” And they’ll tell you yes or no, and they’ll tell you how much it is.

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So don’t ever forget that that’s always a viable option.

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Yeah, I guess the hard part is knowing where they are.

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Well, you know, you live out in Katy. I live in Conroe. We’re, I don’t know,

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a pretty good-sized town, I guess, what, 70,000 or 50,000 people? Right.

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We’ve got probably 10 or 15 scrapyards in this town. I guess that’s how you’d look it up, would be scrapyard.

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Yeah,

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scrap metal. Scrap metal.

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And the rear bumper, there wasn’t a lot to that one, if I remember correctly. I mean, you didn’t put nearly the amount of time into the rear bumper, did you?

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No, no, not even close. The rear bumper is literally a couple pieces of 2×2 square tubing and then a piece of 2×4 square tubing with a couple end caps that I made for it. Originally, I was going to go ahead and form it into the body, you know, just like the body is on the form of the back of it, but my Jeep got hit pretty hard in the rear, and now I’m actually afraid to take the rear bumper off.

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I’m afraid if I took the bumper off now, I wouldn’t get it back on, because I’m afraid the body would just flex enough that the bumper just wouldn’t sit back on there. I’m probably wrong in that, but, you know, once it got hit, I’m good with leaving it the way it is. Yeah, you know, why risk it if you don’t have to? It certainly has proved itself from the

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Toyota passenger vehicle that rear-ended you.

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That is correct.

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So you have the recovery points on the rear bumper, and it’s a very simple bumper, but it does what’s needed. Would you say that the cost of the metal for that would be more or less than what you spent on the front bumper?

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Way less.

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So 50 would be a good guess?

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Yes.

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And I would assume that the time to put that together probably would be in the couple-hour range.

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Yes.

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Okay. So– You know, not even– I would say a couple hours, because one of the things I get different than everybody else has done, I didn’t mount mine back to the stock locations. It is, but it isn’t. My plates that hold the rear bumper on

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a quarter-inch stick, and they’re bolted in the four factory holes, but I also took the square tubing, the 2×2 square tubing, and cut out the back frame rail and slid the tubing in as far as it would go, which was all the way to the shackle bolts.

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And I actually, on the bottom side, I’ve drilled a hole up through there, and I’ve actually got the bumper bolted to

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the frame as well. And what I did is I drilled a hole up through the metal and threaded it with a tap, and then just screwed a screw in there. So I’ve actually got five holes on my rear bumper that’ll hold it, and, I mean, as you say, you know, I took a Toyota out with it, so, you know, it’s plenty strong.

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Yeah, and of course, the bumper that I got from Detours has a similar type of attachment. It’s not as

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in-depth as what yours is. It’s just a bracket that goes inside that unibody, and, of course, that’s what you need. That

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connection that runs parallel to the unibody so that you can get the strength to keep the bumper on, if nothing else. Especially as a tow point, you don’t want to just hook into the eight bolts that hold the bumper to the body, because those… No, yeah, definitely don’t want to do that. Right. So you do need to tie into the unibody, and that’s those rails that Raney’s talking about, where he actually went inside of them and bolted to. So that’s exactly the way you need to do it.

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And to be honest with you, Tony, on my bumper, I was going to put a receiver hitch on it. I didn’t end up doing it because of it being hit. But I am now rethinking I’m going to go ahead and put a receiver hitch on it, because my son now has a dirt bike that I’d like to take with me, and in order to do that, I’m going to have to have a receiver on mine. But I would trust putting a receiver on mine, and, you know, I mean, our jeepers, you know, they say they can carry 5,000 pounds. I don’t know about you, but I don’t really want to haul around 5,000 pounds behind the back of my jeep. My jeep will probably tow it. It ain’t going to stop it. Right. It can barely stop itself with the oversized tires. Right. So, you know,

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I would trust putting a receiver hitch on mine and carrying around a little, you know,

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5×10 trailer and never think twice about it. Right. My bumper is plenty strong enough. I know my hitch points are, I mean, I know my

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points that I have attached to my body are plenty strong enough for that. So, you know, I’m sure. I mean,

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I would haul it and never think twice. So the only other thing that at least comes across my mind that you’ve made is the sliders.

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And

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so the sliders, how much of material do you have? And for those of you that don’t know what sliders are, basically what they’re designed to do is to allow you to slide the body of the jeep over things that are hard.

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It keeps the bottom, the rocker panels from being dented. It keeps the bottoms of your door, in many cases, from being dented. They’re often used in whenever you’re doing, I want to say rock climbing, whenever you’re going over obstacles like rocks because, you know, you may get the wheel up and over the rock, but the rock is going to come up or I guess the jeep is going to come down to the rock. And if there’s nothing there to protect you between the body, the thin sheet metal of the body and the rock, it’s going to damage your body. So people put these long metal tubes,

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and they can be tubes round or square, and I think there’s other designs that basically take the impact of those rocks and actually allow you to slide your jeep across and those heavy duty tubes protect the body of the jeep. And what Rini did was he built his own sliders. Now, we don’t do rocks here, but I can tell you that tree stumps, trees, I mean, you know, if you go up and over a tree, depending on how hard you come down, you may make contact between that log that’s on the ground and the bottom of your jeep.

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So I would think that the sliders were probably about as easy as making that rear bumper since they’re just basically

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long square metal tubes that you actually, I would think the most difficult thing is finding the best way to connect into the body of the jeep. And you actually have those run to the unibody, correct? Yeah, yeah, mine are welded on. Mine are actually, mine fit flush with this pinch seam of the body, and I have it tacked to the pinch seam, and then I have some more square tubing coming from the unibody to my rock rails, and they’re all welded together. Mine are permanently there. Mine will never be removed from my jeep. And there’s no problem with that, right? I mean, unless you were going to, I guess, turn it back into a grocery getter. And even at that, what, it doesn’t hurt? I mean, how much do you think those sliders weigh? Maybe 30 pounds, 50 pounds?

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If, I don’t even think they’re 30 pounds a piece, I mean, 30 pounds for the pair. They’re pretty light,

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pretty light. They’re not made out of the thickest material that I could find. They’re just, you know, two by four square tubing, I don’t know, probably, you

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I don’t know, 316 stick or so. The metal form I actually got for free. I have zero money in my sliders. But it’s because of what I do for a living that I ended up with a lot of extra metal, and I’ve cut it up and made them, you know, for my jeep. But

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they were actually, believe it or not, probably more complicated than my rear bumper. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

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The, not making the sliders or cells, but attaching the sliders to the body. That was very

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time consuming.

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I mean, a lot of grinding, a lot of making it work, because you have to, with the way I have my

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runners run from my frame to my rock sliders, I have it

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welded on both sides of the pin seam, and I had to grind a slot in there and make them slide over the pin seam just right. And there was some,

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it probably took me half a day or more just to do attaching the sliders to the box, to the jeep, but it did make it.

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And you’ve also, because of what you’ve gone through and what you’ve experienced after having the sliders on there, you’ve actually found that you should have done one extra thing to those sliders, right?

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Yes.

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They don’t stick out far enough. If you rub a tree, you’re still getting your doors.

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So not only can you protect the rocker and the bottom of your doors from objects coming up from the, well, I keep saying coming up, they appear to come up because you’re coming down on them. Whenever you go up and over an obstacle, your jeep can come back down on top of that obstacle and damage the rocker panel and the bottom of the door. But also too,

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you can use a slider if you have it out far enough to keep trees and rocks and, I guess, pedestrians from actually impacting the side of your vehicle.

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And that’s what Dreeny’s talking about, is that he’s got the slider where it protects the bottom of the jeep, but it doesn’t really protect the side of the jeep. And you can still, not all trees are straight, trees have limbs, etc., etc. But certainly if you’re in a situation and all of a sudden you’re trying to get in between trying to go by this tree and the jeep slides, well, you could be up against the tree very quickly. So that, Joni, and another thing you’re using for it is pivot points.

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You can actually use your sliders as a pivot point to get around certain objects. You put the slider against it and just turn your wheels hard and stand on the gas and let it spin the tires and just kind of turn around the tree or rock or stump or whatever it may be. And mine are not capable of doing that. If you were to do that on your vehicle, okay, they’re capable of doing it, but you’re going to end up with body damage because of it. They just don’t stick out far

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And you’ve told me before, but how much further, I mean, how far were you going to extend those out? Was it six inches?

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No, probably just a couple of inches. I want to be able to look down my door handle, you know, basically take a level, put it on my door handle and actually be touching the slider.

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Well, a couple inches isn’t bad. So that couple inches wouldn’t put it out to, say, the same distance of the outside edge of your tire then. It would actually be much closer in.

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Oh, much closer, yes. Okay.

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Another thing that you left out for the sliders is one of the greatest things about a slider is when you end up with tires the size of ours, the stock jacks are absolutely useless. You have to pretty much have a high lift jack and the slider is the greatest place in the world to jack up your vehicle. It’s very easy to see, isn’t it? You don’t have to get under anything and look and make sure that you’re right on the pinch seam or the axle. And in many cases, if you’re off road, you may not be able to see those things anyway because they may be buried.

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That’s correct. And with the case in mind, you just basically throw your jack down there and start lifting.

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It’s going to touch it.

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Well, I’m certainly looking forward to getting some sliders from my vehicle. And

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wish I had had them before I did it at the quarter panel, but I’m going to take care of that. That’ll be just fine. You know, it’s nice too because I don’t even notice it. I think if I was in my 20s, it would just drive me insane.

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It bothered me enough doing it that day. But since then, really hadn’t even thought about it.

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Yeah, you have. Pretty happy about it. Well, if it was something like a door or a fender or something, then it would bother me. But I don’t ever notice it.

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Yeah, I’m with you. I mean, that’s why I said, you know, I’ve got to the point with mine that

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body damage is certainly not an option. I mean, if you, you know, I don’t want to tear it up severely, but

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you know, rubbing a tree and having a scratch and a dent out of it, it’s just a way of life. Well, and also too, you can wind up messing up a door sufficiently where you won’t be able to open and close it. So if you you can look at it from the standpoint, you may not care about doing the superficial damage to the to the door front or rear door. But in the case of a four door Jeep, but certainly being able to open and close the doors would be would be something that would be less convenient than a scratch or a dent. So the sliders, the sliders are a very good idea, even if you’re not doing rocks.

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Yeah, and I agree with you. That’s one of the reasons I want to extend my sliders out a little bit more, because, you know, the real vulnerable spot of our Jeep is right with the front and rear door me.

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You bend that in, you’re pretty much done. I mean, there’s, you know, now you can’t open your back or close your front door. That’s right. And that’s one of the reasons I want to go ahead and extend them out. That way, there’s no way for me to actually hit that. And see, one of the other things that I’m real close to doing online is I’m going to do a cage in mind,

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but I’m actually going to do like what they call a hybrid cage, which is my halo. My top bars will be on the external part of the Jeep where all my other bars will be internal.

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Would you make that would that be like a roof rack where you would actually be able to put things on the roof or is that how you? Yeah, sure you could, but I won’t be using it as a roof rack. That’s what I mean. How do you move my roof rack because of getting me hung up on off, you know, when I was out on the trails? Right.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I actually, I just myself personally don’t like external cages, though, you know, the X-Doh cages. I just think they’re butt ugly. I mean, and that’s just my personal opinion. And, you know, some people love them. I’m on the opposite end of that. The only reason I’m even doing the top bars out of the Jeep is because headroom.

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I’m six foot tall. When I sit in my Jeep, my head’s not terribly far from the top of my Jeep. Yeah. And because of that, I don’t want to knock my dog in when I’m wheeling it.

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You know, I don’t want to have to wear a helmet every time I drive my Jeep off road. Right.

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So I’m going to do it that way. And

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if I don’t like it, I can always cut it off and start over. That’s the nice part of being able to do things yourself because you can make changes whenever it suits you, whenever it’s the best decision or how it’s, or whenever it suits you.

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Well, and that’s the greatest thing about working with metal. You know, if you screw it up, weld the two pieces back together and start over. Yeah. It’s okay.

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You know, I guess it’s funny because I’m no carpenter by any stretch of the imagination. You know, if I were to build a house, I’d have a lot of leftover two by fours because they’re all be cut too short. Yeah. With metal, you know, if you cut it too short, it’s okay. We’ll be back together.

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Recut it. It’d be all right. Yeah, it’d be nice if you could do that with wood, wouldn’t it?

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Oh, yeah.

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Okay, guys, that was our part two of the Rene Arganard interview. Of course, the difficulties today made it such that I was not able to edit it properly.

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So it kind of ended abruptly.

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And I wasn’t really ready for it to end abruptly.

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So

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just want to thank Rene very much for doing that one hour long interview. Of course, that took us a little longer than an hour. And as you can tell, it was just a couple of guys talking about Jeeps and things that you do to them.

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So just reading the chat room here, we’ll been says when does Barney start to saying I love you. You love me.

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Hmm. I’m not sure what you’re watching. Well, then.

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Oh, did Jim make it? Jim did make it. Jim, I was looking for your

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I did look for you on Skype, but I saw that you weren’t online there.

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I’m lying about the major major network thing.

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So what’s up, guys? How did you how did you survive today with XJ talk being down for, gosh, what was it? Two hours, like from like three thirty to close to five.

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And then, then Jim says porn.

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And then it went back down, I guess, around 530

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and was down till,

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gosh, after eight.

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So I guess it was it was down more like

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five hours today.

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And and like I said earlier, this all has to do at least if it is if it’s the same thing that happened the last time, it was in the twenties here, which was what the last week or something last Friday. This all has to do with the electric company not planning for enough power to provide

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everybody sufficient power to run their heaters

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to keep to stay warm.

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And, you know, they need to leave my power alone because I have a gas heater, gas central heat.

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I’ve got a gas water heater

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and I’ve got a gas fireplace.

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And last Friday we had chili and I had lots of personal gas.

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So,

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yeah, Houston is too cold. Well, it’s all this damn global warming.

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So there’s, you know, that’s that’s interesting. There’s some Mormons just across the street, fine people. And it is it is cold here. Of course, they’ve they’ve always been across the street. They were across the street when we moved in.

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And that was about

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13 years ago.

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So we don’t have Rene here to ask questions. But did you guys have any questions? I know everything that Rene told me and it was only what a week ago that or two weeks ago that we spoke. So I’m sure I know.

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Does that mean you’re not going to work in the morning? Big Jim, because I would think you on a

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roof with 20 degree weather would be lots of fun.

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I have a joke that I like to I like to put on Twitter.

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It makes me laugh and I don’t think it makes anybody else laugh. But but I still enjoy it because I laugh at it. If Al Gore fell over in the woods and there was nobody there to hear it,

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would he make a sound?

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The chat room fell silent.

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The planet here says no.

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Well, I’m sure that the I’m sure that there is a global climate change occurring because it’s a secular thing that happens has happened for thousands and thousands and thousands of years. You can see that in the the ice core records from Antarctica, North Pole, South Pole,

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know. One of the poles.

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And I don’t mean the Polish

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anyway. So, yeah, I think that the climate is changing and that’s that’s normal. That’s that’s natural. It’s it’s, you know, just like so many other things. Sun rises, sunsets. It’s a cycle in nature.

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But what’s our effect on it? I mean, we’re very minuscule

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in what we do, what we are and what we do to the earth.

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So, man, it just really gets me anytime I hear these these things about save the planet. The planet doesn’t give a rat’s

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about us.

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It will it will survive just fine with or without us. We could drop every nuke that we have and the earth is going to go. Well, that was interesting. And those cycles are going to clean everything up and it’s all going to go back to the way it was. We just won’t be here.

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There is there’s no saving the planet.

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The planet you we don’t possess the technology to damage the planet sufficiently. It’s all about saving us. So, you know, if you want to if you want to do a promo for that, that semi intelligent people can buy into say, let’s save humanity.

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Although I could probably figure that there’s there’s pockets of humanity that that you don’t care to save. And that’s probably why they don’t say that.

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anyway,

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could be wrong. I’ve been wrong before.

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No, I was right that time to everyone.

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Water world, water world. That would be cool. Web feet.

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Exactly. Screw the planet. Let’s go. Mudding Jim says

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zombies. We don’t want to save them. Well, zombies. That would be pretty much anybody in politics.

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Don’t even get me started.

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God, I hate it. I’m sitting here talking and then the the screensaver kicks on and both screens go go blank. They go dark. And I’m like, oh, my God. Power outage.

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I got to move the mouse, you know, and I see everything else here is still on. So I figure it’s okay.

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And it was

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the following program is closed captioned for the thinking impaired.

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That’s it.

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Hi, Gordon. What you been up to? Big thanks, Fred. I’m a full time student at Bartending College. Wow. I never had time for a formal education. Well, I decided to make time, but it’s not easy. Bartending College is a four week course. How long are you? Well, let’s see. This is Tuesday, the third week. Hey, I’m a junior and I’m late for a daiquiri lecture. Why don’t you join me? Why not? Bartending College. You’ve already spent enough time on the other side of the bar to qualify for enrollment. Bartending College. We teach you everything you need to know. You’ll get a starter set of bartenders jokes like. So I said to the guy, you can stay, but the cow’s got to go.

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Bartending College. You’ll learn how to roll drunks, water the liquor and skim the cash register. And remember, as the bartender, you drink for free. Class code for integrity.

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You can stay, but the cow has to leave.

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It doesn’t get much better than that. I don’t know if you guys could hear that very well. That was kind of the audio was kind of low on that one.

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I absolutely love this one.

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Oh, wait a minute. I just wanted to say XJ talk is the best

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site in the

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world. And if you think you know a better

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site,

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you, by the way, this is big M 350.

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Bye.

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I want to remind you guys of something that I thought about today.

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I was thinking about adding a new segment to the show called Helpful Tips.

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And basically it would be something that would be relatively short, informative, that people may or may not know. I mean, we have all kinds of knowledge levels on the site. So what I was thinking was one of you, one of you that are listening, member of XJtalk.com or not, you could call into the voicemail line at 530-675-4102

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leave a helpful tip.

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What would be really good is if you were to say who you are, if you’re an XJ talk member, what your name on the site is, where you’re located like Lexington, etc., Houston, Texas, etc.

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And then what your helpful tip is.

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And I have not tested it out to see how long a message you could leave, but I would imagine you could leave 2, 3, maybe even 5 minutes of a message. So a quick helpful tip. And then what I could do is play that on the show.

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That would give you guys an opportunity

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to be part of the show and contribute to the knowledge of people that may not already have this information. Because keep in mind, the people that we have in the chat room right now and usually are XJtalk members, and we talk about things and we read all the posts. So we have a good idea of what the knowledge level is of the individuals on the site. But you don’t know who might be listening, who might be watching on YouTube or the Ustream recording. So, or even just listening to the podcast later.

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So it would be great if you would jump in and

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let your helpful tips be known.

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Well, Stefan, I don’t know, or I should say I didn’t know all that much either. I have pretty good mechanical knowledge and it wasn’t until I had to start working on my Jeep that I learned things. And of course getting on the websites like naxj.org

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was the first site I happened on. And it was very informative and I learned a lot just by reading things. And when I’m under the Jeep or working on things, I can

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apply what I’ve seen, what I’ve read about to what I’m seeing. And then make that association of how things go together. And it was actually very surprising to me how simple the Jeep is. It’s a very,

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very, way it’s put together is a very simple thing. And I like that. I mean, from an engineering perspective, simple is good.

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It’s very effective.

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I learned a couple of tips like use a lot of PB Blaster.

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Well, from what I’ve read, if you’re in a environment where it’s cold, ice, snow, and they use a lot of salt, which you’re in Utah and I would assume that they do,

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then yeah, you have to learn how to use the things that break

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the rest apart.

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Well, you know, the Renix is just a engine, right? I mean, that’s the only difference between the HO

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of engine that I have in my 98 and of the Renix, which was before the what, 96 and before.

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So

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I don’t think that, I mean, there’s what is it? The

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Renix systems have a closed,

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gosh, lost it radiator

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cooling engine, coolant system. They have a closed system, whereas

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the 96 or 97 Ford have an open system.

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Oh, okay. So what was it? So 92 would be the HO engines?

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Okay.

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Well, that’s good to know because I would like to get another Cherokee at some point, and it would be nice to get one that would be a

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similar engine to what I have.

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And not,

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and not a Renix, simply because it would be different than what I’m used to.

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I’d love to have like another 98 or 99, 1999 Jeep Cherokee.

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Actually, I’d like to have one for my daughters to drive. My oldest daughter is, well, actually they’re both driving age now. My youngest daughter just turned 16 yesterday,

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so she could technically start driving.

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We can’t afford for them to, but they technically could be driving.

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I wouldn’t want them being driving, wouldn’t want them driving around by themselves anyway. It’s just

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not something that I would be comfortable with. Although I started driving when I was 16, and man, I was all over the place. My parents were crazy. They shouldn’t, they should have been keeping closer tabs on me.

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But what are you going to do?

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Well, I hope the low turnout in the chat room is just a

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sign of starting late and not a decline in our viewership. Although I think there’s a few people that would have been here. I know Reni would have been here if it wasn’t past his bedtime.

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Actually, we lost somebody. And Wayne’s not here. I just realized that CanTab 27 isn’t with us either.

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Oh well. They can always watch the

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recording or listen to the recording.

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Yeah, he may have been on closer to 8 o’clock, when the show, 8 o’clock central, when the show was listed, had been on.

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Let’s see, Weldman says, “Tony, did you see my grill guard I made?” No, I didn’t. Of course, the site didn’t come up until about 8.15, 8.20. I had a bunch of database errors that I had to correct. And I was in the middle of getting all this set up and ready to go and kind of a double time method. So I haven’t had a lot of time to read anything that’s on the site, but I’ll be going there now, here in a minute.

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I think the site’s all repaired and there’s no more database errors.

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Let’s remind you guys, please call in to our voicemail line, 530-675-4102, and leave your comments any feedback.

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And as I said earlier, a helpful tip that we can play on the air. We’d love to have something other than my voice to play on the show.

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I mean, listening to my voice was fun there at first, but, you know.

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So as you know, xjtalk.com, a Jeep Cherokee website. We have lots of great people on there. We’re getting more members every day. So if you’re not a member, please join. Come by and say hello. My name is Motoroi

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on the site, and I hope to see you on there. So guys, barring any other unforeseen situations, we’ll see you again next Wednesday, 8 p.m. Central.

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Thank you very much for showing up tonight and again, very sorry we’re late. (Music)

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This is Big Jim 350, and I

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love xjtalk.com.

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I just wanted to say xjtalk is the best

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site in the

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world. And if you think you know a better

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site,

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you. By the way, this is Big Jim 350.

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Bye.