Ep. 2 Jeep XJ Dana 60 Swap Plans + Ironman Long Arms | Classic XJ Talk Show with Scott
**Jeep Talk Show / XJ Talk Show – Classic Episode with Scott (XJ4IV)**
In this classic Christmas-season episode of the XJ Talk Show (the roots of today’s Jeep Talk Show), Tony works through brand-new mixer audio issues live, plays a Tom Rapp Christmas song twice, and then spends nearly 45 minutes on the phone with Scott (XJ4IV) talking Dana 60 swaps, Ironman long-arms, highway cooling problems, trailer reinforcement, and real-world XJ ownership.
Scott walks through his H2 wheels, plans for one-ton axles, gearing, 38″ Maxxis Creepy Crawlers, air bump stops, transfer-case crossmembers, steel shims for driveline angles, and why his 6.5″ lifted XJ starts vibrating at 87 mph on the Beltway. The chat room stays lively the whole time with questions from PEI XJ, Dalton 4×4, Brian XJ, Flex J, Big Jim, Rugged One, Trapdog, and others.
Merry Christmas from the early XJTalk.com days.
### Timestamps
– **00:00** – Audio Setup and Mixer Troubleshooting
– **06:34** – Tom Rapp Christmas Song
– **09:41** – Chat Intro and Trailer Width Talk
– **11:48** – Dana 60 Axle Upgrade Project
– **16:00** – Air Bump Stop System Discussion
– **16:38** – Driveline Angles, Shims, and Vibration
– **17:37** – Steering, Gearing, and Tire Plans
– **18:53** – Tire Size and Traction Talk
– **19:12** – Holiday Plans and Vehicle Projects
– **19:49** – Expedition Purchase and Project Overview
– **20:20** – HID Lights and Projector Request
– **20:52** – Traveling with Dog on Road Trip
– **21:27** – Cross Member Fabrication Query
– **22:30** – Transfer Case Drop Concerns
– **23:28** – Cooling Problems and Bump Stop Strategies
– **29:57** – Introducing Big Jim and Trapdog
– **30:20** – Vehicle Rental and Off-Road Options
– **31:45** – Land Rover Off-Road Technologies
– **34:08** – Automotive Reliability and Jeep Enthusiasm
– **35:14** – AW4 Transmission History and Origins
– **39:04** – Toyota Transmission Similarities and Soft-Top Mods
– **40:07** – Dan’s Soft-Top Conversion Experience
– **41:09** – Project Frustrations and Open Discussion
– **42:06** – Project Timeline and Leaf Spring Issues
– **44:35** – Axle Swap Planning and Frame Work
– **45:44** – Bumper Reinforcement and Trailer Hitch Work
– **48:36** – Show Wrap-Up and Holiday Wishes
– **49:44** – Final Song Play and Appreciation
– **53:38** – Sound Level Issues and Fun
– **54:44** – Technical Setup and Future Interviews
– **56:47** – Closing Promo and Miscellaneous Remarks
### Key Highlights
– Scott’s double project: beefing up both the Jeep and the trailer for one-ton axles
– Why H2 wheels + older F-250/F-350 Dana 60s
– Real talk on transfer-case drops vs. slip-yoke eliminators and degree shims
– Cooling system lessons after lift + larger tires
– Classic XJ longevity stories (200k–300k+ mile examples)
– Live chat interaction and early-show technical growing pains
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Merry Christmas and keep the shiny side up (and the greasy side down).
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Episode Transcript
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Excuse me, I’m not sure. It’s, it’s one. No. No. No.
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No.
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It’s actually the XJ model from 1984 to 2001, I believe, was the year of manufacturers.
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And, um, getting some reports here of a lot of static.
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You guys in the chat room, what, uh, is it not sounding right?
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Anyone? Anyone?
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Okay, how’s that? Is that any better?
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Alls of distortion.
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Okay, how about that? How’s that sound? Is that any better? Hmm, that’s interesting. Let me get rid of the, rid of the music and let’s see if we can fix this.
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It’s funny, it’s sounding okay to me.
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Let’s see.
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I wonder if that, if that cleaned it up any. How’s that? Does that sound any better?
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Yeah, there was, uh, I had compression on
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something I was playing with earlier and I forgot to take it off.
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So, uh, is the audio loud enough or let me bump it up a little bit because it shows it being a little low. All right. Hello, hello, hello, hello. Okay.
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Now that’s where I had it before.
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Is the audio distorted or?
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Okay.
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Okay, how is that? Is that any better?
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Okay.
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Hello test. This is a test. This isn’t the actual show.
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hang on. Okay, hang on.
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Okay, I’m working with about, gosh, I guess a total of about 70 knobs now.
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So, it may take some while, it’ll take me a while to get this stuff adjusted right. The new mixer came in today.
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And, uh, well basically I went from
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this mixer,
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if that’s updated yet or not, but
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it went from, I went from using that mixer
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to this mixer.
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So,
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like a fool, I went ahead and started using the new mixer when I probably should have just used the old one.
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Yeah, it came with a book. Not a very good one though.
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It’s a lot of buttons. Well, it’s a lot of knobs.
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I guess there’s about 15 buttons.
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Like this one, this is the mute button. So, while I’m talking, I can press…
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Okay, the sound sounds like the gain is a little too high. Okay,
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I dropped it off. How’s that? Is that any better? Hello, test. This is a test.
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So, the audio last week sounded better than this week. Is that what you’re telling me?
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Well, it’s a shame. I guess it’s the new equipment. I just haven’t figured out how to use it properly yet.
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Let me throw this back up here real quick.
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(Music)
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XJTalk.com
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It’s where you go when you’re not off-road.
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Okay, hopefully the audio sounded a little better. I’ll try to get it all straightened out before the next show.
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Okay, so it says I’m seeing better.
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Load down just a little bit more like that.
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Good.
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So,
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audio sounds better now.
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Thanks.
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Let me play that again.
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XJTalk.com
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It’s where you go when you’re not off-road.
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And here’s another version of it.
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XJTalk.com It’s where you go when you’re not off-road.
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Can you understand that last part on that one?
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XJTalk.com It’s where you go when you’re not off-road.
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XJTalk.com
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It’s where you go when you’re not off-road.
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Gooder. I like gooder.
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(Laughs)
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Okay, guys.
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Let me, it’s Christmas time, so let me throw in this Christmas song from Tom Rapp.
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It’s a song that he
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wrote and recorded. And I really enjoy it, and
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we’re going to play it.
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Well, we were going to play it. I need to figure out what the hell I’m doing. Here we go.
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Christmas is my favorite time of year.
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(Music)
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Christmas is my favorite time of year.
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Everybody knows when it’s near.
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Children yells and jingle bells. Give me something no one sells and fill that cup on up with Christmas cheer.
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Christmas is the time to celebrate.
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Throw some more of that turkey on my plate.
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Don’t sit home, don’t be alone. Call some friends up on the phone and fill that cup on up with Christmas cheer.
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I know what I’m going to go and ask Santa for. I’m going to get a present just for me.
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She’s cuddly and she’s sweet, a girl that I adore.
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Just put a gorgeous doll under my tree.
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Christmas is the time to celebrate.
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Throw some more of that turkey on my plate. Remember that you’re not alone. Read some letters from back home and fill that cup on up with Christmas cheer.
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(Music)
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I know what I’m going to go and ask Santa for.
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I’m going to get the only thing I need.
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A quick ride back to my hometown on his sleigh.
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So I can have my darling here with me.
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Christmas is my favorite time of year.
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Everybody knows when it is near.
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Children yells and jingly bells, Give me something to oneself and fill that cup on up with Christmas cheer.
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And fill that cup on up with Christmas cheer.
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That’s a really good song by Tom Rapp. Just go over to tomrapshow.com and download it for free.
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Let’s see if Scott’s on the line
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or if he freaked out and hung up.
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Hey Scott, are you there?
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Yeah, I’m here. Okay guys, there’s Scott. Scott, can you hear me okay?
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Yeah, I hear you great. Okay.
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Scott, you’re on the show right now. Guys, can you hear me?
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I can only hear you, Tony. Yeah, no, I’m reading the chat room. P.E.I. XJ says good. Dalton 4×4 says hey Scott. Brian XJ says yes. Hey Scott.
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Let me log on so I can read what they’re saying and let’s see if I can interact.
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Yeah, remember if you do get logged on, don’t have the volume up because there’ll be quite a bit of a delay between what you hear from me and what you hear on the show.
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Okay, but I won’t be able to hear anybody else, right? No, they’re typing in the chat room. The only people that are actually talking are you and me.
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Okay, well then I’ll just watch.
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So I was actually going to call
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Wayne today, can’t have 27, and there was a Skype outage this morning and he got up early. I think it was around 5 a.m. his time and I got up early around 10 a.m. my time.
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Wow, that’s early, huh? Yeah, and no Skype. Well, it is when you’re off.
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So no Skype, no Wayne. So we’re going to try to do that later.
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Well, it’s like Brian says that’s early. It’s early when you’re off. You know, I’m off till January the 4th. I’ve got to go back to work January the 4th. So
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it’s easy to stay in bed.
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5 a.m. is early. I guess that’s actually Wayne’s regular time to get up, I think.
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Brian, you’re supposed to go on vacation around Christmas time.
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Brian says I just came off a vacation.
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I don’t know that Wayne sleeps, to be honest with you. He seems to be on the site all the time.
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Yeah, I kind of gathered that as well.
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So anyway, you recently posted up some stuff about going to the Dana 60 on your XJ experiment. How’s that going?
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Pretty good. I’ve got, as you saw in the pictures, I’ve got a set of H2 wheels.
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I went yesterday and rounded up some steel to do the reinforcements on my trailer to accept the one-ton axles. So it’s kind of a double project for me,
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beefing up the trailer and beefing up the Jeep. So when you say
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modify the trailer, you’re going to make it wider,
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right? Correct. Okay. Yeah.
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Is there any kind of legal concerns about that, or does it matter?
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No, there’s, as long as you stay at an eight foot, I mean, you just, I mean,
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basically the only thing you really have to consider is that the axles I’m getting out of a legal pickup truck anyhow.
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You just have to stay within a certain width of which
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state laws eight feet to the outside of your body and your mirrors can stick past that. That’s why H1s are so wide and they’re legal. Gotcha.
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I’m sorry, Brian XJ was asking what’s your username on XJ Talk? That’s my fault, guys. This is XJ4IV.
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You don’t have a fancy way of saying that, do you, Scott?
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Nope. IV is my last name.
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And then XJ is, that’s what I drive.
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But of course.
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Brian says, Brian says, oh, okay. Were you able to get logged onto the show?
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No, but I can read it. I just grabbed your link over on chat.
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Right. So I can read what everybody’s writing.
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Perfect.
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So you got the H2 wheels. There was, I saw some sort of comment about the wheels would not fit on the specific Dana 60 that you were looking to get.
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Well, I got to check into that. I’m going to make a template. I’ve got a half day at work tomorrow. And I’m going to make a template of the wheel lug pattern to take with me when I go to the junkyard. And I’ve heard a lot of people say over on pirate at
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like 79 model F-250s and F-350s, the lug pattern fits.
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I just have to find an older truck. So it’s the lug pattern and not the size of the disc or the drum brake?
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No, I have nothing to do with that. As far as somebody saying they had to be 20 inch wheels, I’ve never seen that because everybody that I’ve
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looked at, the one tons that they’re running, they only run 17 inch wheels. You can’t do a 15 inch wheel because of how big the hub is.
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Okay.
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Did you see Flex J XJ 95 is a question? Just curious why H2 wheels?
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I got a great deal on them. I paid $240 with the tires with rubber on them, legal tread.
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So how quickly do you think you’ll be going to the Dana 60s?
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I’ve got pretty much I know where I’m getting everything except for my drive shaft set up. I’ve got to figure out if I’m going to go right to a Slippy Ocholiminator.
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If I do that, it’s going to be
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probably late March that I’m complete.
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Well, it certainly ought to be interesting. I hope you take a lot of pictures.
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Oh, I definitely will. You know me.
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My Jeep might actually be over at Matt’s shop. I’m not sure. I haven’t really
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verified with him, but I’m sure he’d be like, yes, please bring it. It’d be interesting to watch. Yeah.
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How’s the long arm system working from
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Ironman?
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Those are great. I love them. I only draw back right now because my strings aren’t long enough.
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I need limiting straps or something. But when I go with my one tons, I’m going to do a
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there’s an air bump stop system that
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cut off the
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factory bump stop, and then you mount this thing to it. And what it does is it acts like another shock internally, but it doesn’t actually absorb shock from your ride.
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It’s just when you push up on the axle, it just goes up with you. Right. Didn’t we see something like that on that
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JK at the meeting? I can’t remember the name of that group that meets. Yeah, they’re air adjustable bump stops.
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They’re kind of expensive, but I think
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I have a feeling that Andy’s doing something along those lines.
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Andy is the man behind Ironman. Yeah, sorry. 4×4 fab.
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But yeah, I think he’s kind of working on something like that in stealth mode, not really telling anybody, because he’s got those adjustable regular bump stops,
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and a lot of people have said they want to do these bump stops, but they want them adjustable lengths.
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And if I can get one that just collapses under air pressure
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and extends while I’m flexing,
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it still maintains a solid piece all the way down to my
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spring perch. I got you. So it’s kind of like a shock, but
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it doesn’t really slow down the bouncing. It just – well, in your case, it would keep the spring on.
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Right. My spring would stay lined up where it’s supposed to be.
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Well, it sounds pretty interesting. How’s the wife handling all this?
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She just pretty much says, “You can sell it from your Jeep. Have fun.”
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And actually, I’ve got a bunch of Jeep parts that are going to be coming up for sale pretty soon.
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I’ve got five 15-inch wheels, the black wheels that I’ve got, you guys have seen.
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I’ve got two Super Swamper TSLs, and I have a feeling that
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Reaney might be interested in those
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because he just got us set. I’ll tell you what. Reaney buys tires like they’re going out of style.
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Yeah, I know.
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He’s all over the tires. He’s going to start his own tire fire in his backyard.
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Oh, good Lord.
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I
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tried to get him on the phone tonight, but
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he apparently had something else that he was going to be doing and leaving shortly. Actually, he may have already left.
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Yeah, I’ve not really seen him on the line.
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I’m kind of reading, too, and I’m trying to keep up with everybody on there.
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Are you reading, Tony? Yeah, I do, but I don’t do it as well as one of the Ustream shows that I watch.
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There’s a
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young lady that does a lot of interaction, and I’m really surprised. She carries on interviews and reads the chat room, and she sees something that she doesn’t like. She’s on it like a duck on a June bug.
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Wow. Yeah, it’s amazing. Multitaskers, I hate them.
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That’d be nuts.
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So what else you got going on?
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Right now, it’s just I’m focusing on the steering, the Dana 60 upgrade.
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Keeping my mind open as far as gearing, I’d like to go with at least 488.
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It’s not really going to be a daily driver after I do the axle swap. What size tires are those? The
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ones that are on there right now are just equivalent to 33s. I just wanted tires to get me down the road for a little bit. Yeah, no, I mean the ones you just bought.
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Oh, I haven’t bought them yet. Once I get the axles going,
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I’m going to go ahead and put the ore in. I’m going to get
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or 38 inch Maxxis creepy crawlers.
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I haven’t really decided what size yet, but I want to get them in a 1350 slide.
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You get something that tall.
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You need it wide so it doesn’t look so skinny.
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Right. Well, it probably won’t hurt you on the rocks either.
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Nope.
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More traction.
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35s on the stock drivetrain kind of sucks. Yes, it does.
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Yeah, I’ve got my picture in the picture on the video stream. That’s what he’s referring to.
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Here, just reading up. Oh, actually Dalton. Hey, Dalton.
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I haven’t met Flex J.
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How are you doing?
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He’s on the XJ talk. He’s a member there.
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I was talking to him both on here and– He’s been on there for a while. I just haven’t really seen him. Right.
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Well, hopefully this XJ talk show will generate a little more interest in the site, get people on there
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and
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be more active, which was the whole intent.
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Have a little fun in the process.
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So what’s up for Christmas? Are you doing anything GP or even non-GP but is fun?
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Let’s see here.
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Getting a new tow rig.
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The engine blew on my Durango and I’m really tired of it. I just put a transmission in it about eight months ago, six months ago.
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And about two months after that happened, the engine blew and I’m like, “Forget it. I’m not wasting any more money on this. I’m just getting out from under it. If somebody wants it, they can have $2,800.”
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I’m buying an expedition from my dad, which I’ve got to go out to California and pick it up, though.
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And that’s pretty much it as far as automotive and Christmas goes. I asked for a few things for that. I want to
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get some HID lights for it, projector system.
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So are you going to be trying to pick up the expedition during Christmas or…
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What I’m trying to do, if my parents will let me,
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is I’m going to fly down there on New Year’s.
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Probably the third and then drive back the weekend.
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Yeah, that ought to be a pretty drive, although very long. You need to get you a CB or something so you’ll have something to do.
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Yeah. I think I’m going to try to bring my dog with me. She’s my companion.
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Southwest Airlines deals with that. They may not let her go. She’s kind of big. She’s a black lab.
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She should make you stop quite often for bathroom breaks.
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Oh, no. She’s great. She is fantastic.
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We went to Waco last weekend
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for about 10 hours, actually, and she did just fine.
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Took her out and she didn’t go pee right away. She went and played around for a minute, and I was like, “Okay.” Yeah, that’s interesting.
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Yeah. Seems like a dog is always ready to go pee.
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Yeah. P-E-I-X-J says, “I got a question for yuz. I’m thinking of making my own crossmember for the transfer case that is not as low.
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Then the stock ones,
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what would be good to use?”
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If
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you’ve got the fabrication skills,
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Iron Man Andy might have a template.
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I’m not sure. I know he’d sell the crossmember. I know the crossmember I got for him, for my long arms. It’s a lower profile than the factory one.
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It sits a little higher up in there, and it’s a lot stronger than the factory one.
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But if not, I would just use 2×4 square tube
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and just drill out holes for your TK’s mouth.
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Now, I think Andy was telling me, again, IronMan4x4fab.com, Andy was telling me that the
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crossmember that he was making to go along with his long arms, which is what you have, I guess what you have is technically the prototype,
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it incorporates a transfer case drop in it. Is that correct?
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I
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did notice it did drop down a little bit.
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Where the transfer case actually mounts to the crossmember
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is flush with the bottom of the frame.
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So it did lower about maybe half an inch, 3 quarters of an inch, but not a whole lot.
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Well, the transfer case drop that I got with my
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lift kit was one inch. I mean, all it is is one inch rubber spacers, so it drops the crossmember down an inch. So if that transfer case, I mean, if the transfer case has dropped 3 quarters of an inch, then it’s almost identical to what I’ve got.
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But it affords a little more protection than what mine did. I don’t care for that drop because it’s a crossmember, dropped down an inch, so it can catch on more things.
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Yeah, to me,
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it’s sad to say, but to me, lowering a transfer case,
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it puts a little bit stronger bind on your motor mounts,
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and it also kind of defeats purpose for having a lift.
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Yeah, well, that’s one of the reasons why I need to get a
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slip yoke eliminator kit so I can do away with that.
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That’s actually what I’m focusing on when I do the 110 upgrades. Guys, if you guys are worried about driveline vibrations, the cheapest way to get around it without having to
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drop your transfer case, go to four wheel parts. If you actually
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really wheel your Jeep like rocks and such,
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get steel four degree shims.
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You can basically…
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The rule of thumb is on shims, anything over four inches, what you want to get is the degree of shim for however many inches of lift you have.
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I got a four degree shim
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for my four and a half inch lift. Now, I’m a little higher now, but since I’m doing this one time upgrade, I can actually alter everything to make the driveline angles pretty good.
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But you can go to four wheel parts or pretty much any four wheel drive supplier, and by
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probably over the counter you can get shims,
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and they’re pretty easy to install.
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But that’s the best thing to do. I’ve done it. I drive my Jeep every day to work, and I drive all over the Houston area.
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Today, my Jeep hit 87 miles an hour, and that’s when it started vibrating. 87 is not a normal speed for a six and a half inch
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XJ.
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You must have been on the beltway.
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Yes, I was.
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Because I think 87 is the unofficial speed limit, and people start throwing things at you or firing warning shots if you go slower than that.
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Yeah.
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I was just trying to keep up with everybody on the beltway.
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I recently went to General Sam’s, and I went up there with XJ Rat,
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and we went in his 98 Jeep Cherokee, which I have a picture of it on the show right
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I went up there with him, and I was constantly looking over. He’s driving down the road 60, 65 miles an hour, and he’s on a three and a half inch lift. He had 32 inch tires, and I keep looking over at his temperature indicator.
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The
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thing would never get above 210. I just really envied that. I would like to be able to go places on the highway with mine, but it runs hot.
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I’ve got to figure that out.
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Well, I’ll tell you this much. The other day when I picked up the H2 tires,
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I didn’t really think it through very well. I had to reinforce my rear bumper and receiver because it’s only tied into the factory mounts.
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I have a receiver on the front, and I put my hitch basket
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the front, and I put two of the tires up there.
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I was down near Hobby Airport, which is about 40 miles from where I live,
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and I started heading back.
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I didn’t really think about it. I hit the freeway, and boom, it started overheating. I was like, “Oh, duh.
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I’ve got two 33 inch tires sitting right in front of my radiator.”
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I
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took them off. I put one more in the back seat and put one more on top and strapped it down. Headed back home and stayed on my highway for another 27, almost 30 miles,
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and I never hit 210.
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Yeah, I wish my answer was that simple. I don’t have any tires on the front of my radiator.
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I know, but you’ve got those lights.
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I’m telling you, I did notice a huge difference when I took out that mechanical fan. Literally, all I did from when I had your problem
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to when it was resolved, I took out that mechanical fan,
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and I popped in another electric fan that I got out of a Taurus. Now, I screwed up and got the wrong one.
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I got a later model Taurus.
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It doesn’t have near the CFM that everybody talks about with, “Oh, get the Taurus one from this year.”
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The part numbers, the middle part number is the same. It’s the prefix and the suffix of the part number
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that are different.
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I’m not sure what they are for that specific Taurus that
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we’re so sought after.
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But mine,
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like all day mine back and forth on the Beltway, switching 75, 80 miles an hour, it would stay just above the first line
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between zero and 210. Right.
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Well, keep in mind, I know that logically in XJ Rat and I, Glenn, and I had the same conversation going up to Huntsville, the General Sams.
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The lights, the bumper, the winch, all that stuff wasn’t there when this problem first started happening.
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The problem first started happening after I lifted the lift kit on and the larger tires. That’s when it would run hot on the freeway.
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Well, I can say this might be the factor
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when your Jeep was sitting lower to the ground.
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It created more of a vacuum because you had lower ground clearance. Right.
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So it would be sucking air through
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the radiator, through the fan, and then back underneath your car. Right. Now that you’re up higher, there’s not quite as much of a vacuum. It’s kind of like
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sucking through a straw, like a little stir straw, and then going to sucking through a
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McDonald’s straw. Right. How big the difference is.
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That was one of the thoughts as far as when Matt and I were talking on the chat on XJTalk about, I was talking to him about putting an air dam or a baffle or something underneath there so that it would make it more,
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it would force the air to
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go through the radiator instead of around. That bumper has such a great approach angle on it.
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It made the whole Jeep very narrow on the front.
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So I don’t know.
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I’ve tried everything that I can think of on the cooling system as far as changing out the radiator, the water pump, the high flow thermostat, etc., etc. And it does exceedingly well at low speed, crawling around, climbing stuff off-road. It does great on the highway. It doesn’t overheat, but it does run hot. And I just don’t want to have that heat build up. Because I know it’s going to get to me after a while. It’s going to mess up the engine. It’s going to mess up more than likely the transmission.
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So I just don’t want to run the risk.
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I see Big Jim 350 is in there now. Where is she at? Where is she? What’s up, Jim?
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Big Jim.
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I see P.I. Trapdog has joined us. Trapdog, you probably don’t know. He’s a friend of mine that wrote a great Christmas song. And we played that earlier.
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He wrote and played it,
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recorded it.
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Cool.
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Oh, there’s Rugged One.
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Let’s see. Hey Jim. Dalton says, “Hey Jim, y’all still heading up this way.”
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know Jim, I was talking to Wayne the other night on Skype when it was working. And
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Wayne said,
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Wayne told me that Big Jim and Reani are planning a trip to New Zealand.
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Really? Yeah, that’s what I said. I mean, I heard them thinking they were joking about it. But apparently Wayne’s getting a room ready or something for him.
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Sweet.
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Yeah, Wayne told me, “Hey, anytime you’re in town?” I’m like, “Yeah, I’ll just shoot on over in New Zealand.”
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That’s whenever you need
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some teleport capabilities.
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That would be a long, long drive. I
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couldn’t wheel my Jeep in New Zealand because the price of parts out there is ridiculous. Oh, boy, you’re not kidding.
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Yeah, if I break a wheel bearing, that’s $130 here at the most.
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It’s probably $285 out there.
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They don’t have anything there. Everything has got to be imported.
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Man, I just, you know, we don’t realize what we got.
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Big Jim says, “Yep, going to head over to New Zealand next November.” Is Reani going with you?
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Waiting for Jim to type.
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I’m going to get a rental there.
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Rent the Rubicon.
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Tell them you want a Rubicon mail truck, so it’ll be left-hand drive.
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Yeah, it might be kind of hard to get a rental. What are you hoping to rent over there, Jim?
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I know it won’t be a Jeep Cherokee.
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A Taurus. Yeah, not unless he rents it from Wayne.
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Land Cruiser. Oh, a Land Cruiser. That makes sense.
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I’d cruise that.
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I like Land Cruisers, too, but I just, I don’t know. I’ve seen videos of what they’re capable of, and it’s like, “But who
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drops 100 grand on a nice looking
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vehicle, and will take it through mud, you know, four foot, five foot, six foot deep,
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when there’s no lift on it?”
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I mean, it’s understandable on an H1,
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because H1s look rugged. They look like they belong there. But a Land Cruiser, not so much. Right.
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Yeah, Land Cruisers, they all look like they’re, I mean, here in the States, they cost more because they’re imported.
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Yeah. And you see a Land Cruiser or a Range Rover, it’s like, “Ooh, money.” You know, that somebody just cruising around, that’s something that would never be taken off-road. That’s like, you know, a double hummer.
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Yeah.
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Now, I have a video on VHS.
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I’ll let you borrow it and see if you can find a way to
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get that transferred over to digital or whatever that we can put it up on, actually, Talker, YouTube or whatever. But it shows, it shows a
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25 minute clip on how Land Rovers
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work off-road. They’ve got like a hill assist,
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ascension assist and all this stuff. And
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basically, it’s like ABS for going down a muddy hill.
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Mm-hmm. And they said, “If you lock up the wheels
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going down a hill in the mud,
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it’ll automatically start rolling the tires for you. You don’t even have to do anything but steer.”
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And I was pretty shocked by that. I actually watched them do it.
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Yeah, I think that’s–is it the Toyota–is the current Toyota–what is that thing? FJ?
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What’s it called? You know, like that $40,000 one that the guy put the big scrape on? Oh, an FJ40 or FJ Cruiser? FJ Cruiser.
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I think–I don’t know if that one had–but I think they have something similar to that, a locking system so when the tire starts to spin, it–the brake actually applies.
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I don’t know if anybody’s ever actually looked at those FJs at the Toyota dealer, like brand new. They
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got about six different major add-on components for those FJs.
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We’re talking like front and rear lockers, like good lockers.
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They also have the computerized stability control for off-road.
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They have air ride suspension just like
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the Range Rovers have, where it’s totally adjustable. You can go high and low. And then they have one kit that’s
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FJ has already lifted, I think, three inches with 35 or 36-inch tires under it.
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And I didn’t realize there was so much on there. I thought it was like you get a 4×4 or you don’t.
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Sounds like you can spend a bunch of money.
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Oh, yeah. There was one out there for $52,000.
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That’s not as much as what I thought it would cost.
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Yeah, I was pretty shocked, but I mean,
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it’s kind of like
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been in the four-wheel drive industry for so long. They’re kind of like, “Yeah, we dominate. We can do this.”
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And nobody really questions it. It’s kind of like a Honda and dependability. People are like, “Oh, I know I can put $200,000, $300,000 on a Honda before it needs major, major work.”
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That’s true. And although I don’t like seeing the U.S. auto market
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suffer, I’m kind of glad that somebody came along and said, “Look, this is how you can make vehicles and make them last.” And I’m really, really tickled with my Jeep. And I understand that the Cherokee, even though it’s an American-made product, it does have
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several pieces in it that are not American-made, specifically the transmission.
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I did not know that. Yeah. Was it made in Mexico? Well, I thought it was a–maybe I’m mistaken on this. I thought the
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transmission, the AW4, is a Toyota design.
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I did not know that. If
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somebody on here, we’ll chime in and let us know. Guys, where’s the AW4 from?
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I don’t think it’s a Jeep Chrysler product.
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I don’t think they buy it from somebody.
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Oh, Brian at XJ had to go because he has to go work third shift. But I talked to him the other day on Skype. He says he loves it.
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Third shift? Third shift. No, thanks. Graveyard.
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Oh, big Jim, it’s ASIN Warner. Yes. That’s American. Is it?
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Yeah. Maybe I was mispronouncing the ASIN being Asian.
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No, yeah, there’s no N. It’s just
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A-I-S-I–no, sorry.
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A-S-I-N Warner.
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Yeah, but really, I thought that was a Toyota–a
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Toyota designed transmission.
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If I had–my first 4-way pull was a Samurai.
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If this guy’s–it was a male truck lookalike. It was a hardtop, non-removable hardtop. Anything’s removable. White.
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Yeah, there it is, Dalton. A-I-S-I-N. There you go. That’s what it is.
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It had lockout hubs on it that were made by ASIN.
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And I talked to a buddy of mine. I said, “Are these any good or should I get worn?” And like I said, this was my first 4×4.
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And he even said, he goes, “Those are just as good as worn.” So he said, “Don’t get rid of those.”
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Well, I’ve been very impressed with the Jeep. I mean, I think–I may have mentioned it on a previous show that at 100K, I was– 100K miles, I was thinking about putting all these modifications on my Jeep, and I was a little concerned that it was near its end of life. And a guy at my whole job actually told me that, “I don’t know. Those things routinely do 200 and 300,000 miles.”
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Yeah.
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I’ll put it to you this way. I’ve had 3x chase. My first one was an 88.
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And when I got rear-ended by a Tahoe with a ranch hand bumper, it had 338,000 miles on the original engine, the original transmission.
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And
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Jeep was the only car–there were 3 cars involved in the wreck.
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My Jeep was the only one that was able to drive away.
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My second one was another 88. It had 290,000 miles on it.
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And I ended up tearing down the engine. They had a little rod knock because the guy before me didn’t take care of it. I actually bought it for $600, knowing that it was needing some work.
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I ended up not finishing it and selling it for the same $600 I bought it for. So I was like, “Whatever.”
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And then this one I’ve got the speedometer–
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I think the speedometer cable got caught up on the exhaust and it hasn’t worked in about four months.
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But right now it’s showing
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miles on it. So I should probably be around 200 and
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maybe almost 250.
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That’s a lot of miles.
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They last a long time. And I know this, ever since I’ve got it, they’ve been rough,
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hard miles.
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Okay, I looked up something here on the Asin
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Warner– What did you call me? Yeah, exactly.
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Actually, it was a question. AW4 transmission, the–how do you pronounce that? A-I-S-N, ASIN? I just–ASIN, yeah. The ASIN Warner AW4 transmission is an automatic shift, four-speed overdrive transmission used in the 1987 to 2001
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Jeep XJ Cherokee and MJ Cherokee models.
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Skipping down a bit, the AW4 is predominantly found behind the AMC 4.0L 242Ci I6 engine. The AW4 was also used behind the AMC 2.54-cylinder. A similar transmission is used in some Toyota rear-wheel drive applications with the A340.
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So I don’t know what similar means.
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I don’t know if it means it looks alike or if Toyota bought the transmission and was using–you know, bought a similar model
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from ASIN Warner, ASIN Warner.
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But anyway, I think that’s probably where I got my feel that it was a Toyota transmission.
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Hmm.
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Maybe not.
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I don’t know. Well, I know
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my Suzuki had those hugs, and I
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never really crawled under it to see what
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the transmission looked like.
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But I bet you I could fit it in my pocket. I know that much.
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And now I wouldn’t mind getting another one of those soft top and just
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hacking it to pieces and enjoying a topless.
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I could, you know, roll it down the road and then roll it down the rock. Well, I sure do like what Dan did. I don’t think you were there at the Sonic that time. We had a Jeep meet and greet here in Houston, and Rene works with a gentleman by the name of Dan. Oh, yeah. I’ve been out there a couple times. Okay. Dan had a 2001 XJ that he cut the top off of, and he showed up there one day. And that was almost enough, not for me to cut up my Jeep that I have now, but almost enough to make me want to get another one to do the same thing.
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Yeah. It looks
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beautiful. And he did it all with a little Harbor Freight bender
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and a little 140 amp welder.
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And it looks great. It looks great. It just he took the time that it needed
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do it right.
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And I said, Hey, how much would it cost to do another one? I said, I got deep pockets.
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He said, not deep enough. I was like, okay.
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Yeah, I imagine there was quite a bit of a little frustration doing all that. I mean, I would think that it would be a lot easier the second, third, fourth time. But yeah,
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I understand putting things together and getting them working is a frustrating,
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very frustrating thing. It’s rewarding, but I understand not wanting to go down that path again. Yeah.
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I’ve got some pipe bent for my XO cage, but I ran into a
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stopping point when I realized I don’t have a pipe notcher.
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So I need to get me a drill press and pipe notching
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kit. I’ve got the pipe bender
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and Big Jim gave me a welder.
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Speaking of which, Big Jim, I think there’s another wire missing inside of that thing. I put a new liner in it the other day and that part’s working good. Got the trigger fixed.
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But I hooked it all up and I realized there’s a ground wire inside missing.
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So I’ve got to take a look at another weld pack and see exactly where it goes to.
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But I’m ready to
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get some stuff going on this Jeep.
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Well, guys, do you have any comments or questions to make on this, or have we about exhausted this line of
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conversation?
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We need a little– We don’t have any questions. We need a little icon so we can tell when people are sleeping or not. Correct.
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One just to ease.
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Well, Big Jim says a welding supply store should give you a schematic.
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Hey, Scott, how long do you think the swap will take? I’m reading these questions for the podcast that people can just listen to. They won’t have the ability to read the chat. Let’s– Say, my dog, hard part’s gathering the material, but once I have everything in a garage, if I’m not interrupted by
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a spouse or anything else, I think start to finish just by myself.
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I could probably do the whole swap in a day.
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I work pretty diligent on these things,
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provided I don’t run into any major mishaps. Now, I do know this.
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When I get my axles, I’m going to shave them down all the way there,
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then take my measurements, and
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I’m going to tack weld all my brackets in place and take them down to a local place called Javier’s Off Road.
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And I’m going to have Dave out there
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weld everything up to the axle
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perfectly. But I’m going to–like I said, I’m going to tack everything because I want the degrees
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set up on my angles for my drivelines.
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But once that’s done and all I have to do is unbolt the old axles and bolt in the new ones and everything,
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I could definitely do it in one day.
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I didn’t even think– Hey, Wayne’s here.
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Well, I need to update my list because I didn’t see him.
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I was just getting ready to say, I don’t think–yeah, yes, hey, Wayne.
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You know, Skype is– Oh, hey, Wayne.
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I’m sorry. Wayne is Cantab 27 from XJ Talk, and that’s what he’s logged on here under–as under Cantab 27 on Ustream.
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And Wayne, the Skype is still down. I found out that they had a–they had an outage today, and apparently it’s been an all-day thing.
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I get the feeling that people–a lot of people are off, and they’re using Skype to call people, relatives across the country and perhaps in other countries. So
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anyway, we’ll get that interview down. I was kind of hoping we would be able to get that and play it for this show, but
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got to pay the bills. Skype is free, Wayne.
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Dalton asked–it said, “Not so bad. So for a regular non-Ooper human,
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say about two days.”
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The only issues I ever run into, which I pretty much every single time, so I never put a timeframe.
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I never promise a timeframe on doing
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major work. You’re going to have a bolt that doesn’t come out. You’re going to have something that doesn’t fit.
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I try to take those things into consideration.
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When I did my leaf springs with the new adjustable shackles, everything went perfect except for one thing.
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I broke a weld inside
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my rear leaf spring
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shackles, and that’s a pain in the butt.
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Other than that, everything went in and out perfectly fine,
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and that one weld added another hour and a half
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to the job.
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So provided everything goes good,
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pulling an axle out and popping in the new one, it’s just a matter of unbolting and re-bolting. Once
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you get all the dimensions set up, it should
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be just like taking that axle out and putting it back in. How did you get to that
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weld broke? How did you get to that? Was that something you had to cut a hole in the floorboard of the cargo area?
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No, no, no. It’s inside of the box frame thing that you have. Okay, everybody puts in quotations the frame.
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So my bumper, I just knocked out behind my – I took my bumper off and I knocked it out behind it where you can see inside the frame rail.
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And you can actually see to the
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nut. And basically all I did was just
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booger weld the heck out of it until it
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held. And then I took an impact on it and removed it.
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I threaded it back on there just a hair,
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and then I hammered it through so I could break that old one out
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and put a new one in.
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What about the opening to the unibody? Did you close that back up?
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No, no. I mean
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oh, the access hole? Yes.
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The access hole was just for cosmetics from Jeep.
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Oh, I thought you made it. A lot of times places open it up anyhow so they can reinforce their bumper. And actually that’s what’s on the chopping block for tomorrow. I got some angle iron. I’m going to go
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hack up and bend and weld up to reinforce my rear bumper and
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get my receiver hitch going again.
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Right.
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Well, when I put on the bumper from detours.com, that rear bumper, they marked this in a couple of small pieces of – gosh, I guess that was
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1⁄4-inch thick metal. And it was basically a little L bracket.
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So the bumper bolted to
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that L – the small portion of the L bend and the longer portion of the L bolted to the unibody. Right there where the nut strip is for the
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– I’m not trying to say – the trailer hitch.
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Yeah. Yeah, the receiver.
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Now, I sold my receiver hitch a year and a half ago
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when my friend made this bumper for me.
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And I asked him, I said, “You know, is this bumper going to hold up pretty good?” You know, “I’ve got a trailer I’m going to tow around with Jeep, but all I ever going to put on it is like
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camping gear and some tires.”
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He said, “Yeah, that’ll hold.” Well,
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it held for a while, and I’m starting to notice some stress cracks
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from the mouth. Wow. And – That’s not good. Just
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I just – I don’t want to
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hurt it too much. I want to be able to at least pull
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my car hauler trailer with it empty
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just to move it around.
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So
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I just want to get it rocking.
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I can’t remember. I can’t remember if it’s JCR, but somebody actually sells nut strips that you can –
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that you could actually probably attach to. I mean, you could make your own. It’s not that big a deal, but – That’s what I’m doing with the angle iron. I’m just going to run the channel all the way down on the inside and then another one on the outside and just bolt through it.
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I’m going to tack weld the bolts on the inside part,
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and it’s all going to
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that portion of it will be bolted to my bumper, so it’s still removable.
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Well, anything that you can get parallel to the unibody is going to make it a lot stronger.
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Yeah. If nothing else, your unibody will fail before the bumper comes off.
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Yep.
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Well, Scott, we’re getting towards the end of the show, and I’ve got a couple of things I’m going to cover before the four minutes is up that – and the show ends. So, really want to thank you for being here tonight. You’ve been on the phone for 45 minutes
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and gave us – My lord. Yeah, gave us a lot of great information, and it was
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good not to have a lot of dead air because I didn’t know what I was going to talk about. I was hoping to have that interview with Wayne.
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So, hopefully you’ll be available again. I think –
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I think, like I said, it was – I found it very interesting, and hopefully everybody else did and found it had some useful information distributed to them.
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Cool. So, thanks a lot, Scott. I’ve made this much. Anytime you say “jeep,” I’ve got enough to say.
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Well, we all do. I’m still learning, but I’ve read quite a bit and seem to retain some of it.
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Scott, you guys – you and your family have a very Merry Christmas, and I’ll be chatting with you on xjtalk.com.
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All right. Take it easy, Tony, and you guys have fun out there wherever you are.
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Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
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Okay, guys.
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I want to throw in – we may run a little over here, but
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we played Tom Rapp’s song earlier, Trap Dog, here in the chat room. We played his song earlier, but it’s Christmas, so I think we ought to have at least one more playing of that. So, let’s try the sound levels, check again for this music. You guys let me know how it sounds. Christmas is my favorite time of year
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Christmas is my favorite time of year
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Everybody knows when it’s near
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Children yells and jingle bells Give me something no one sells And fill that cup on a quick Christmas cheer
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Christmas is the time to celebrate
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Throw some more of that turkey on my plate
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Don’t sit home, don’t be alone Call some friends up on the phone And fill that cup on a quick Christmas cheer
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I know but I’m gonna go and ask Santa for
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I’m gonna get a present just for me
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She’s cuddly and she’s sweet, a girl that I adore
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Just put a gorgeous doll under my tree
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Christmas is the time to celebrate
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Throw some more of that turkey on my plate Remember that you’re not alone Read some letters from back home And fill that cup on a quick Christmas cheer Jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle I know but I’m gonna go and ask Santa for I’m gonna get the only thing I need
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A quick ride back to my hometown upon his sleigh
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So I can have my darling here with me
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Christmas is my favorite time of year
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Everybody knows when it’s near
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Children yells and jingle bells Give me something to one’s health And fill that cup on a quick Christmas cheer And fill that cup on a quick Christmas cheer Jingle bells jingle bells jingle bells
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bells
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xjtalk.com xjtalk.com It’s where you go when you’re not off-road
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And before I forget, Dalton,
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4×4 Dalton called the voicemail And left us all a nice message
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Hey, it’s 4×4 Dalton. I’m just calling to tell everybody to help y’all have a Merry Christmas
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Thank you, Dalton, and thank you for calling into the voicemail
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We’re a little over, and I just want to tell everybody Of course Christmas is the next big thing that’s going to be happening And
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I want to wish everybody a very Merry Christmas I’m very happy that you guys could make it to the show And sorry about the sound levels As I said earlier in the show, I probably should have waited on using the new equipment Seeing how
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the show was
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tonight I mean, the equipment was literally delivered about two o’clock in the afternoon
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The dog was barking I didn’t expect it to be here until tomorrow And being the big kid that I am,
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I had to go and take it out of the box And start installing all of it And of course,
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it’s completely different And I mean, as I showed earlier, here’s the one I was using before
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Not as many knobs, not as many things to mess up And this is the one that I installed today, and the one I’m using right now
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So, it sounds good to me when I was recording it locally But I really had no way of testing it on U-Stream
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You have choice, yeah
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It’s a lot of fun I’ve got a bunch of cables coming in because, like I got the telephone hooked up today So we could talk to Scott on the phone
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I’ve got some more cables coming in so that I can have Skype hooked up And I should be able to have calls from people from Skype I should be able to have calls from people on the landline And also to be able to call people on their cell phones So we might actually be able to get some conversations Or at least some interviews of people on site Maybe at events similar to what I was at at General Sam’s
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Anyway, we’re about three minutes over Thank you very much If you’re not a member of XJTalk.com, please think about joining We have conversations like what we had today And it’s a variety of subjects
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Not just about Jeeps, that’s just our primary focus It’s XJTalk.com And membership is free
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We’ve got about 1,500 people that have joined the site so far And I have a lot of fun on the site
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Everybody have a very Merry Christmas And I look forward to seeing all of you Next week, next Wednesday, 8pm Central Thanks again guys
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Thanks for watching
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Thank
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