Why Jeeps Never End: Our Love-Hate Modding Journey

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Thanks, Janet. Thanks for letting me be on this episode. I’m excited. And this is what we did for a recording on a Monday though, because we got the Monday struggles. But we’re

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this topic because it’s like when they say with Jeeps it never ends and that is like 100% true. So it’s a yes and a no answer. I will say for me if I am able to tackle more than one issue at a time I try to do that but I know that that’s not always possible. You’re waiting on parts or things are happening or it’s your daily and you can’t have it down. So I think it really just kind of depends(…) on the situation and also what it is you’re tackling. Are we talking about something little or are we talking about something big? I know I kind of had this situation happen with my Jeep after Apex Adventure series and it went from just one blown shock to my Jeep on the lift for 30 plus days.

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Who needs that? (Silence) (Laughter)

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Yeah, that’s a victory. (Silence) (Silence)

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Yep.(…) Hence the reason I’m actually procrastinating on an oil change for my Jeep right now. (Laughter)

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Oh, we get it. No one will see you. Out of sight, out of mind.(…) (Silence)

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(Laughter) Yeah,(…) out of sight, out of mind. It’s fine.

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So I have them. I installed one of the Rough Country switch panels that goes down like where, if you have a Rubicon, which mine is not, where like the lockers and all of that go. So I have a switch panel down there that I run all of my lights through because I’m not going to say it’s like the most beautiful wiring you’ve ever seen ever and it’s like going to win some sort of award.

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I’m not professional, but I don’t like rat’s nest wiring.(…) So I took the time to do it correctly the first time, which is a time-consuming pain in the ass.

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It’s really, so Mike had just redid the wiring on Patty because he was changing up some lights or whatever and his was already neat, but he wanted to like streamline it a little bit more and, you know, run it through the frame rails and certain parts of it. And it’s a day.

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Good. Good. Hi, guys.

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So yeah, I mean, it’s a bit because you’re sitting there soldering and shrink rat and it’s just a, it’s a big pain in the butt, but it is something like, to me, if you’re going to dive into the electronics and you have some stuff to address there, you might as well go ahead. Or it’s one of those things where you’re thinking in advance, if you’re going to install something lights or whatever, you know,(…) think for the future.

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Maybe, you know, do a switch panel or do something thinking advanced to save yourself trouble in the long run.

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Yeah, I can see that.

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All the parts.

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Yeah, and it’s a so, I mean,

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what do they say by once cry once like, I will say, like I did the whole 33 3537 3840s. And if you have better learning that came with that. Love it. Great. The experience is all this. The money,(…) the money from having to redo and say, and redo and redo, like financially.

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not if I would have known then what I know now I would have saved myself a ton. But granted you know I had no idea back when I first bought my Jeep and I was dailying it and I thought oh well experiment a little bit off-road. I had no idea I’d be loading it on a trailer and driving it across the country(…) the wheeling so it just you know

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It’s why you make me walk buddy.

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Spoiler alert.

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Hey girls so listen I got a plan for your trailer will convene after this because I’ve seen some good options I’ve been doing a deep dive and digging down a black hole that I won’t get into on this episode. Maybe a future one but I was seeing I was scrolling through some stuff I was like I gotta call Janet. So anyway.

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Well.

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I mean we.

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Yeah so I mean we thought about like doing stuff like that honestly because we just you know and we rent campers so we might as well we just have like a whole like rental plot situation for all of the people. (Silence) (Silence)

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Right.

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Makes money make that payment.

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Yes girl put that so we have them welded onto our axles the little not D rings little you know.

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So we just it’s literally so fast you just reach up there click it’s in. (Silence) Too much work.

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Yes.

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Yeah. Absolutely. And I think you know when I talked about my being on the lift for 30 days or whatever. So if you break on a trail like I did which led to that right.

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I blew out of shock. Could I have just replaced that one shock. Yes or even put a pair on the front. Well so I guess this would happen. I blew out of shock. We were leading the apex adventure series. I blew it the beginning of the first obstacle the first trail.(…) So I’m like I’m wheeling this this dude the rest of the day. Well by the end of it guess what second shot.

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You know it’s like I’m over you. I am over you. So I could have just replaced shocks right. But then I knew if I’m going to spend the money for this.

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My plan is was eventually I’m long arm in the front. I’m still short arm in the rear.(…) But I do. I wanted to run. We we have relocation brackets.(…) We cut off the original shock mounts in the rear. We’ve mounted mounted new ones. So I wanted to run 14 inch shocks in the rear because I know I will be going to long arm in the rear. Right. So why would I spend the money on a set of shocks to then again when I put the long arms on buy another set of shocks. No. So I went ahead and made the decision to buy those shocks and put some limiting straps on it which cost like 30 bucks on Amazon or whatever.

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Well and I had to upgrade my coils but that that was kind of in the works too. But thinking ahead because I’ve I’ve built it and then rebuilt it too many times.

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Too many times. Well sometimes when you break something maybe think OK well I know this is going to be the progression of it. So how can I fix this. But in a way that it’s going to be conducive to what’s coming in the future.

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Yeah, girl, I was to say, so I originally thought,(…) I wanted to go to the coilovers too

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and I was like, what do I want to do? And my kids kind of thrown around the same thing. Cause he’s a three link in the rear and he has this crazy flex, but I don’t know if you follow like a flex rocks and roll rollovers, wheel carnage, motorsports.

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He does this amazing YouTube video where he talks about coilovers or not. And, and then Dan, um, he’s a really cool guy. And he’s a really cool guy. And he’s a really cool guy. He talks about coilovers or not.

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And uh, and then Dan, um, war paint off road. He has a good video to coilovers or not and kind of comparing the two. And after I watched both of those videos, I’m like, I’m like,(…) and I think about Micah’s build, which is kind of the progression where mine’s going,(…) the articulation, the travel and the things he gets is like so close, like, but without the expense or the headache or any of that. So, yeah. And plus just to say, well look at, you know, I’m not on coilovers, but look at that. So Yeah.

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So, part of our philosophy is we want to build it with the most performance, but do it on a budget.(…) Right. And so, I mean, you can see the amazing performance he gets out of Patty and Walker. I mean, is once it gets that three link in the rear, baby, that’s gonna be right there. But anyway,(…) but it’s not just because of money, money, money. It’s just the time, the research. And it’s like a Frankenstein. It’s got parts from a bunch of different companies, but it’s the ones that work the best for what he’s trying to do. And it just,(…) nothing just works. It just works.

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Yeah, you don’t really realize how good you don’t have it until you upgrade the brakes. I did an upgrade on mine in between San Hollow and Moab.

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And you know, there was different places before where I was like used to standing on it. Now granted, mine was still the factory, everything that it rolled off the showroom floor with. Pads, everything. So I had not done any brake work to the deep. And now instead of like, you know, trying to push my foot through the floorboard,(…) it just, it stops.

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They will rip off, yeah, I had a friend send a message a while back in a group chat about Jeeps and they’re like, well, I’m thinking to go into 40s. What all do I need to trim? And I just responded with the chainsaw emoji. I was like, I can’t just tell,(…) will you just trim this?

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Everything.

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Yeah, I mean, you have to be prepared to cut some things off of a very expensive vehicle to do that. So.

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But you saved so much money.

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Girl, you see how wide our Jeeps are?

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They’re fat.(…) And I mean,(…) pulling into my garage a few minutes ago, I was very irritated by the width of the Jeep, but on the trail, it’s great.

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Yeah, you’re talking to another long bed girlie, you know, so yeah. (Blank Audio)

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Yeah, cuz feeling tippy and unnecessary situation sucks.

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You’re kind of working it sideways.

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It was fun. But boy, when you’re up there and you’re going sideways, I was just like, am I going over? Am I going over and then you can love it, but yeah.

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But honestly, watching Mike do it, and then me and Mike could do it, our width helped us there. I could do it because he was like, I felt bad, but he felt horrible.

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(Blank Audio) Patty’s wide and that thing just, it’s like,(…) it’s so effortless. There was one time in San Hollow, I was like, that’s it. I’m switch, get out, you know what I mean? I’m driving Patty.

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Well, I was just walking up stuff. I was like, well, no wonder you’ll try anything. This is so easy.(…) And Walter, you gotta work for it. He’ll go, he’ll do the same obstacles, but he’ll make you second guess choices in the middle of it.

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Yeah, I’m on like 3.5 or 4. I don’t, you know, but it works.(…) And it’s my creation. It’s my vision that’s come to life and I’m very proud of it. So.

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(Blank Audio) (Laugh) (Blank Audio) Yeah, on the trail and like record, he likes sweating it out. Yeah, and you learn from things like that, but it is part of you. Your, you know, for how you want to wheel, you know, how you want it to look even. So it’s your vision, your creation. It’s like adult, you know, art, Lego, whatever you want to call it, you know.

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Oh gosh. Well, Trail Heroes coming fast and I don’t know that I’ll really do much

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beforehand, but my,(…) I want to do long arm in the rear. So we all know that I’m a part of the crashfab family. I love these crashfab products. And so I want to get Justin to build me a long arm for the rear, but I’m on the fence. Do I three link or four link? So I’m still like, I don’t really know. So, but that’s probably my next like major upgrade. I mean, I need, what’s on the plans now changing the damn oil. (Laugh) (Blank Audio) And now it’s like before it was like, you know, oil change required soon. Now it’s like change my oil, dumbass.

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Yeah, I mean, it’s really, I’m really meticulous about maintenance. I’m just saying like, I treat Walker real good. So, but you know, I need to change the oil. So that’s my, it’s stupid. It’s so stupid. And we were working on my bean truck all weekend.

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Yeah, so what’s it, and another thing I want. I want the Rock Hard 4×4 sport cage. That’s on my radar too, because it’ll work with Sun Top. So those are my two things that I want. What about you, Janet? What’s the whole thing you want to do with this? (Blank Audio)

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Yeah,(…) yeah, yeah, I mean, those sport cages for the price and the, I just like, I know this is gonna be an unpopular opinion.

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I don’t want to, I don’t want to chop my Jeep up all like that to do it.(…) Nah,(…) and the Rock Hard 4×4 ones are great. It’s what I need. (Blank Audio)

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Like you drill some holes, but that’s it. (Blank Audio)

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Yeah, I should have bought Marx when he was selling it. I should have. Gosh, stupid, but anyway.

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Yeah,(…) I guess I need seats to go with that too, that would be, you don’t have, you’re still in your factory seats, right?

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Yeah, this, I’m over, I’m over Texas summer right now.

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Yeah, I can wheel in the cold. Like, so I guess like I don’t wheel that much during the summer because,(…) I mean, I feel like, I’ve, you know, like when they crack an egg on the concrete and it fries, what I feel like out there, I just cannot. But now it can be like snowing outside and I’ll put on like a parka and let’s freaking go, but I’m out on frying like an egg, no. (Blank Audio)

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Yeah, and it’s gonna be 101 degrees here tomorrow.

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Thanks Janet.

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You’re my friend, you’re my new friend.

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