To Boldly Go…

Tune in to the latest Jeep Talk Show Chic Chat episode with Natalie and Janet as they discuss Jeeps, off-roading, and how the sport relates to women. Offering advice and encouragement, they inspire fellow women Jeep enthusiasts to embrace the adventure and joy of Jeep ownership. JTS Chic Chat is a weekly woman-centric episode, published every Monday, that celebrates the Jeep lifestyle from a female perspective. Don’t miss this empowering and informative conversation!

 

Hi, I’m Natalie from High Lift Off Road where you dream it and we build it. Chick Chat is the place where we celebrate the perfect fusion of style and adventure. Jeeps have long been synonymous with ruggedness, freedom and the spirit of adventure. And who says women can’t embrace all that and more, right Janet? That’s right.

 

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It’s the Jeep Talk Show Chick Chat with Natalie and Janet.

 

Hi, I’m Janet with Precision Graphics and Marketing where you can brand your legacy.

 

Just before we get into our topic for today, I just want to give out a shout out to an upcoming fundraiser that’s in the Dallas area, but you don’t have to be in the Dallas area to win. Oh, it’s called the Rubber Duck Regatta. It’s going to be in Rockwell, Texas on October the 12th. It started off as just a fundraiser for some of the local nonprofits, but then it turned because of the whole ducking thing turned into a Jeep Fest as well.

 

So it’s going to be on October 12th. You do not need to be present to win. And what are we winning? A Rockwell Jeep is giving away a brand new 2024 Jeep Wrangler. Oh my gosh. The rumor is, is it’s not going to be stock. It’s not going to be how you just get it off the lot. Platinum Off Road, who I use for my own personal Jeep, was asked to help make this Jeep a little bit more, give it a little bit of spice. So with the help of some vendors, some companies such as Teraflex, Nitto Fuel,

 

I can’t give away all the secrets, but you’re going to want to win this Jeep. So the ducks are, you can buy a duck, so they have a rubber duck race. They dump all these rubber ducks into the harbor fountain and the first duck that makes it to the end wins and you win a brand new Jeep. Or the second prize is, second and third prize are cash prizes. So this fundraiser benefits the Boys and Girls Club of Northeast Texas and also the Grace Clinic, which is a clinic that serves the underserved and uninsured populations there in the Rockwell area. Also, if you go to the website is RockwellDuckRace.org. If you go there to buy some ducks, again, you don’t have to be local. You can be all over the place.

 

If you go to buy some ducks, they’re having a promo right now that if you buy ducks and use the code platinumoffroad, all one word, if what you get 10% off your purchase, also there may be some extras that they add onto the Jeep. If your duck wins that’s associated with that promo code platinumoffroad, there may be some extras that be added onto the Jeep. Can’t really say what they are, but they’re, I know what they are, but they’re pretty good. So you’re going to want to go and buy some ducks and they have packages

you can buy. So what’s the website where we can go buy the ducks at?

It is RockwellDuckRace.org. O-R-G.

I love that rubber duck regatta have really kind of infiltrated the Jeep community. We did one here in Cincinnati and it’s actually launching today. Today is our actual rubber duck regatta on the Ojai River in Cincinnati. So to benefit our local Free Store food bank. So I think it’s so neat that Jeepers come together, not only just for the ducks, but it really, we have tapped into a whole new nonprofit community because of Jeepers. So great job guys.

Yeah, absolutely. And they’re going to have a show and shine. So if you’re local and you want to get your Jeep in there too, they have like a Halloween themed, you know, best off road, best in class. So go and take a look and head out there and it’s their stuff for the kids. There’s food trucks, there’s different vendors out there. So it’s a great, great cause to raise some money.

When is the deadline, Janet?

 

I believe you can even buy ducks that day.

Ooh, fun.

I may be wrong, but I know Mary who runs this whole organization, she’s going to be doing an interview with Jeep Talk Show a little bit later this week. So she may be able to get more details.

Oh, exciting guys. Interview Fridays. I love it.

Yes.

 

Yes. So I know that on some of our episodes, we’ve talked about what women need to know about going off road and the preparations and how do you put it in for low and how do you change this? But I think that we need to also talk about some things that may have been forgotten. So what do you think, Natalie? Do we need to talk to our listeners about that to get ready for an off road trip or finishing out a trip that they may not be thinking about?

So I think both are so important, right? So I think with since we’re at the start, the top of the show, we’ll start with the prep, right? So prepping to go off road can sound, I think, really daunting. I know it can be. I’m a list person, so I like to make lists. Do you make lists?

I do make lists. I love me some checklists.

Right? And I have all the fun colors. I think that’s definitely a girl thing. Yes. But guys, you guys can use fun pens too. It really puts it out there what you need.

 

But I know when I forget something, like I’ve forgotten my radio before or I walked out of the house without my favorite trail snack, which is grapes or the Mount Rainier cherries, actually, not. Yes. But those are in season. That is the favorite trail snack. Oh, yeah. But you know, it’s so important to be prepared because of what we’re doing, even if it’s just a driving around type of day, like going on a road trip.

 

I know around here, some friends of mine just did a road trip down along the river and there’s a great road that just shadows the Ohio River with some really cool river towns you can stop in. But you still need to be prepared when you’re doing those. So, you know, starting with the prep, I think is extremely important because that will lead to a more successful day. Like don’t forget your recovery bag. You know what should be in it. By the way, guys, Janet’s in a really cool location. I’m on a ranch in practice right now, and it is so awesome. And I’m just loving her backdrop, too. So I know how to you, Janet. You’re on a ranch.

I know that’s OK. That’s OK.

Fantastic.

The ranch hands are out. The dogs are out. So I’m getting distracted. I’m sorry. Oh, no.

It’s great. I really hope, guys. Here’s another rabbit hole that hash brown makes an appearance. Hash brown chicken.

 

Yeah. She might come on. So you know how Janet and I are with our random animal sightings. So so, yeah, to be prepared. So that’s my first step is always to try to make a list. So I’m a hauler. So I’m doing all my jeeps. So that is something also an extra step I have to take into account, making sure I have all my straps ready to go and making sure the trailer is ready. So all the electric works. Then it’s been serviced. Are my tires aired up? Do you have a functioning spare? I did not have a functioning spare on a trip a couple of years ago. I had to borrow someone else’s, which they were so gracious about because I ended up having to change the tire. So it’s always when you think you don’t need it.

You know, so what do you need it?

Yeah, you do, Janet.

So I think I have a mental checklist on my head like you do. And because it would be easier just to write it down, you know, and

I always tell myself, write stuff down. No, I wish I did. I was that cool and organized because I got to be honest. Like it’s a dream.

Yeah, it’s it’s a mental checklist I have in my head. And what I actually do is I actually visual visualize myself like prepping, you know, airing down, doing all that stuff. OK, what do I need to air down? And then I, you know, have all that stuff. I have a bag that hangs on the back that has all my supplies in it, the tools that you need and, you know, extra dry shaft, if you need more.

 

You know, stuff like that. So for me, it’s just I’m on the trail. What do I need? And then just make sure I pack it. And of course, the snacks. Snacks.

What is your go to trail snack? So to me, that’s the most important this morning.

Yes, I know. I’m hungry. So caffeine drinks, water. And then my favorite snack is to take either beef jerky or trail mix that has the M&Ms and the raisins in it because you have the sweet and salty. You have the sugar. That’s my excuse. You just got to sugar. So yeah, those are my favorite.

 

One hundred percent. So I get my I have a bag that I always have, like with my recovery gear in it and then I have the tool bag, so to speak, with all the air up and air down gear, too many bags. But you almost you need it because you have to be able to grab it and go. And I’m a big fan of, unfortunately, like like black or camo. Well, that’s not a great choice because I forgot something on the trail once because you know it. So that’s something I’ve had to make a big switch about is high vis colored things. So like neon green, I have some great Rhino USA soft shackles and I made sure not to get the gray because I had gray before and had blended right in, you know, to the dirt. And then now I have all their neon green stuff because you can’t miss it. If it’s, yeah, green or bright red, my recovery bag is bright red. Now it used to be black and I had my name on it. I thought it was so cool and it was cool, but then you can’t see it and you forget it. So PSA, bright, bright colors.

 

Even if it doesn’t match your Jeep or whatever you’re off-roading bright colors, you don’t forget it because you’re going to be it’s intense moments. We’re trying to recovery sometimes even if it’s just a small recovery moment, you will sometimes forget stuff out there.

She is like there she is. There’s the cat appearance. Sorry, everybody.

 

But I think bright is true. Like that’s a really good tip because if you miss it, somebody else may not miss it. At least somebody else is going to see it. Yes, I have a bad habit. I have extra mouth covers. Oh, yeah. I have a super bad tendency to leave them on top of the tire and then I take off. So when we went to Chinaman’s Gulch in Colorado, we were all airing down and I’m, you know, I’m anxious to get out there and I have my rapid deflators and I’m out there and this is going to be great. I left them all on top of the tires and we took off. We just happened to come back to air up in the same exact spot. And I was like, look, somebody left their valve covers.

 

And they were yours.

They were mine. I would cover three out of four. So one of my tires. Yeah. So I carry extra valve covers because I am constantly losing them constantly.

Honestly, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon for that kind of stuff, guys, it really does work. And people are so gracious, too. I’ve had to, you know, I’ve borrowed, quote, borrowed some valve covers. So it really is, I think, one of the most common things that I know for me, I forget about it, too. So yeah, I do have new apex valves now. So I’m going to give those a run when whenever I can drive more than point five miles on the new build. So that would be kind of nice with it.

Are you still breaking in those gears?

Not yet, because unfortunately, I don’t have a top for it just yet. The soft top I thought I got was going to work. It didn’t work. So we’ve had some rain here lately, so no one’s been able to drive it. And I’m my most of my commute on the highway. So it’s staying at the shop and the guys are driving it. But she needs a top on it. So yeah, if anyone’s looking to offload a soft top, guys, JK 2017, you all let me know.

 

I have this Smittybilt one and I love it. I love it. It just doesn’t have like it just stays with the bikini top. So you can’t flip it back. So but I love my Smittybilt. Yeah, I think there’s maybe 100 left in the region in the United States.

Yeah, so you want to check it out?

I know.

Check it out. Does it have a number on it? Like having things that are numbered, you know, one out of.

I think so. All right. It should be like you got the last one.

I know.

Right. So yeah, I love mine. I love it.

So yeah, so probably is extremely important. And, you know, we just as women, I think, too. And this is a positive. We have a lot going on before we have to leave our house normally from kids to partners or animals, such as our cats or dogs. So it is really good to try to stay as organized as possible because it does keep you safe. So yeah.

 

Yes. So making sure. Yeah. And just making sure you have your tools, right? There’s simple stuff that you can change on the road. But what I usually do, because now that I’ve gotten the first year wheeling under my belt, the wheeling trips are starting to slow down a little bit, but you’re making sure your oil is good and doing it. And well, I mean, I only know my Jeep and obviously your Jeep because we have the same Jeep in 2017. JKU, it’s really easy to change the oil. I was intimidated. Yeah, I was intimidated by effort at first. But I took it to one of those local, you know, five minute change places because I was in a rush and they ended up rounding out my bolt in my oil pan. And so the next time I went to go change it, I could not listen. Exactly. It’s a moment. Yes. It’s a moment. So you put that socket on there and you’re like, it’s just turning like it’s just it’s not supposed to do anything.

 

So I went back to them with my supplies and I was like, y’all need to take this off. And so they wanted to deny it. They said that I actually did it before I went out there. I was like, absolutely not. No. So they ended up replacing the bolt, doing the oil change, but now I just do it. My point being is that if you can change your own, it saves you at least 50 dollars. Yeah, it does take some time. I think the longest part is making sure all the oil gets out of the pan and you’re just waiting on that, you know, tapping your fingers. But if you can do that on your own and you make sure that you have the right oil and everything’s, you know, where it needs to be, didn’t crack or oil filter case. Yeah. By overtooking it too much. Overtightening it. Then you know that you’re prepared to go on the trail. So oil changes are good.

Do you think working on your own rig has given you more confidence because you’re understanding more and more, even just learning how to do the oil change and doing that yourself? Does that give you you think more confidence to be able to do more things for yourself?

 

Yeah, I think it does because you learn and we’ve talked about this for you. Learn your Jeep. You learn how they respond and how they react in certain situations. And you can tell if that you’re getting close to that oil change. You can just hear the difference in your engine. And then right when you turn it on, those rockers get going. Oh, it’s all changed. So but it’s also taking pride in what you’re driving. I right. So if you’re having to do some of the maintenance on it or you’re having to install some of the parts, you take a sense of pride and ownership in it versus you’re not putting your hands on it. I think that’s how it feels for me. There are a lot of people and women that may not have mechanically inclined, you know, instincts in them, and that’s OK.

 

Changing your oil is actually really, really simple and really easy. And once you do it, you’re like, why haven’t been doing this whole time?

Yes.

What I will say, I don’t change the oil my ultimate. I still take it. So we talked about this where I treat my Jeep a lot better than I treat my daily driver. So, yeah, she gets the TLC.

I totally get that. Yeah, it’s giving me a lot more confidence being able to work on my Jeep. And yes, you know, high lift has been amazing for me. And they help me with all my maintenance, which is great. But they they keep teaching me. So like having it up on the lift or just being able to look underneath it and go over all the different parts and mechanics. I love being able to actually understand what is happening underneath it. So I think it’s a really it builds more confidence for when I’m wheeling now because I do have a confidence, a little bit of a confidence problem since the flop, I don’t know if that PTSD is still getting me a little bit. So I am looking forward to try to overcome that this year. That’s a major goal for the end of 2024. 2025 will be a bigger wheeling year. But I think it definitely helps with your confidence no matter what you’re doing to when you have that respect for your rig. So,

 

you know, I think that’s a great segue into cleaning. Yes, the respect for the rig, right? It really is such a thing, the cleaning, even if you’re not going off road just that general care, you know, here in Ohio. And I think you guys you guys get some winter moments. You know, the salt on the road. Unfortunately, it does. It really takes a toll on the vehicle. And, you know, with this build, I learned so much. I didn’t realize I already had some major rust occurring on my frame because I didn’t know like I should be. Well, no one ever really taught me how to clean it properly. And, you know, in the winter, you should at least wash it once a week. Even just going through a simple, you know, automated car wash, it just gets that salt build up off of there. But also that mud, I didn’t realize like, OK, yeah, I would run it through a car wash and I thought it was clean. Oh, heck no.

No, that mud will cake inside those wheel wells. And you’re driving down the road going, my tires out of balance. Something happened. No, it’s the mud inside the wheel.

Well, the mud goblin that we.

Yeah.

So even just a simple, you know, going through a car wash with the power washer and just holding that steady stream on your brakes, even if I know you, some people I know for me, I can’t take my wheels and tires off here at my house. Right. Right. A lot of people, some people can, some can’t. But just being able to just go into a car wash yourself, using that power washer, get into those brakes. It’s so important. I know like on all of our excursions that we do with Highliffe Off-Road every day at the end of the day, before we go back to our house and things like that, we always take our guests to a local car wash and everyone has to wash their vehicles out. So even out in Moab, yes, it’s the desert, but still all that dust, everything gets up all up in there. So it is something that we try to teach and promote that respect and care for your vehicle. And our guys are going underneath there. And there has been so many times like I’ll come into the shop and they are covered in mud because, you know, unfortunately, we just some people, most of the community, I feel like just doesn’t know. I think it’s just a I just I don’t think it’s a neglect. I think it’s a lot of you just don’t know because I know I didn’t know. Right.

 

That’s one thing about this new build that the guys told me. They’re like, Natalie, we’re going to have a major conversation about cleaning. And I’m like, guys, I know I get it. That’s the old Natalie. Like I’m understanding. I’m growing. I’m growing. I promise. So, you know, I definitely think, you know, it’s a major thing to grow and develop on. And it should be a top priority at the end of your day

 

to where, you know, most of these are dailies for everybody.

So and it’s important, even if you have a stock Jeep, my Jeep has, you know, has a five and a half inch clip. So getting underneath is very easy. When you’re taking it to the car wash, making sure you’re getting underneath and doing the undercarriage.

 

before you do that.

 

And I don’t know if I’ll ever live it down how dirty those floors really were when they ripped up the carpet. So yeah, Jake and everyone because they’re still telling me of Natalie, we’re not impressed with you.

So when you think it’s clean, keep cleaning the

community to no more dirty.

Yes, we learn you learn we take from our mistakes and our experiences and we’ll teach you what not to do the lesson.

Yeah, don’t leadership, you know.

 

I think that’s a poster.

 

There you go. There you go. Yeah, so yeah, post pre there’s prep going into the trails. There’s finishing out like a lot of people are so tired after you go wheeling. I know I am mentally exhausted. I’m physically exhausted. It’s a lot of in and out of your Jeep. You get home, you just want to go on the couch and just chill. Unfortunately, everything that you packed for prep now has to come out of the Jeep and more than likely it’s dusty. It’s dirty. So you have to clean all that off. If you have like I have a rapid deflator, you know, those valves can get dirt and stuff in there and you’re dragging it on the ground, blowing those out, making sure that you’re not going to get you know, hung up and then washing the Jeep. I personally so we talk about, you know, cleaning the undercarriage and a lot of people will think well, just take it through one of those drive through car wash because they do it. I’m not a fan of those. They will especially if you have aftermarket lighting, a soft top. Just be very aware that if they damage your vehicle, they’re probably not going to help you fix it. Definitely won’t.

The soft top is a big one. I didn’t know that. It’s a big one. You should be going through car washes with the soft tops.

So right. So more, you know, they’ll have light bar. So when I bought my Jeep, I had a light bar at the top, which I hated it. I’m glad it’s gone because it made so much noise. I missed it for the lighting, but that noise it made highway driving so unbearable because it was so loud and it didn’t matter what I did to it.

I’ve always heard about the light bar noise. Yeah, unfortunately, of course, unfortunate mind didn’t do that. But it did get hung up in a car wash once and it flipped up and I was like, What you broke my life bar. But it didn’t break but yeah,

yeah, so those brushes when they go or if they have I call them danger noodles, the danger noodles that come up, they will wrap.

 

So again, disclaimer, I take my ultimate through those. I don’t take my Jeep. I take the ultimate gets a year. Yes, exactly. She needs it. But it’s raining. It’s gonna rain this weekend. So I get out of it for another month or so. But those danger noodles will come up and wrap themselves around the light bar and yank it out. It doesn’t matter if you have it welded in like they will cause some serious damage. So for those that have the license plate that hang off the side, it will rip those off to those brushes will come along the side. Yeah, because it scratches the crap out of your paint.

So it really does it hand

washing doesn’t take that long. Yes, it doesn’t. It’s a lot longer than just driving through but you’re going to save yourself headaches if you just hand wash it before and after take it to the hand wash to get all the mud and stuff off take it home and then finish it out with your hand washing.

We use a lot. Unfortunately, the brand name is totally slipping me but it’s the spray bottle with like the dry wax in it and using chamois. We use a lot for shows but also like just yesterday I mean it rained really bad here. I have little twin with me this weekend and you know it had all the rain spots on it and so I just quickly just you know that’s it. I wanted to look nice because I’m driving you know a moving billboard but it also just helps protect not only the wrap but the paint just even just keeping that dry wax spray bottle and a chamois with you and just even while you’re getting gas just go through and spritz wipe it off. It gets all that dirt and granules off. Yeah. We have a lot of pine trees that have been blooming around here lately so a lot of yellow that yellow dust that comes out.

Yes. That film. Yeah.

You know I have a garage here but unfortunately I’m not sure if the Jeep is going to fit anymore. A little twin is struggling to fit in there. So I think she might be outside a little bit more than I want so that’s something now I’m really taking a wider look at how am I going

 

really was nerve wracking. I will say Roger and his wife, they super chill. Everybody just kind of got along. They were very helpful to me. I, as I mentioned, one day I got altitude sickness and they were very accommodating and put up with me, not feeling well.

 

Holy Cross was nerve wracking.

 

So going on these big trails, and that’s why I love, I wheel with people that are gonna help me push my boundaries. So people that have a lot of experience, that have bigger rigs, that have more capable rigs, don’t be intimidated to wheel with those people because most of the time they’re going to know, if they’re experienced, they’re gonna know all the safety things that you need to know and to keep you safe and keep you from tipping over most of the time.

 

They’re going to help you there. If they have winches, you know, can always winch out. You can always go to the bypass, but most of the time people are gonna be helpful. You’re gonna have one or two in there that are, you know, cocky and what are you doing here? You don’t have experience and they’re gonna talk down to you, just, you know, ignore those people. Align yourself when you get into these Jeep groups, align yourself with like-minded wheelers. If you don’t wanna do the more dangerous stuff, you don’t have to. You’re gonna find, yeah, you’re gonna find your little circle that likes to do the X, Y, and Z trails, or you’re gonna find people that wanna do the more dangerous stuff. Align yourself with those people. You have to trust these people that they can get you out of a sticky situation. I know Mark and Roger would never let anything bad happen to any of us, especially me.

 

So it was nerve-wracking at first to get out there, especially on Holy Cross. I was fine with all the other stuff, but when we started Holy Cross, I was a nervous wreck. And then we ran into a lot of complications on that trail. Roger had some problems with his Jeep. We were doing a daisy chain, towing him up. Oh yeah. The trail that was incompletely nerve-wracking.

So it was- Wow, what an experience, because you got to see that firsthand and learn. And that’s the beauty of sometimes of these overnight trips is what you get to experience and what you get to learn.

Right, absolutely. And then you get to know these people. And then once you talk to them and learn about their experience and their history, and kind of like you listen to, the listeners listen to Natalie and I, we’re talking about what got us into GB and our experience. And it’s just a lot of fun to get to know people and get on the trails with them, because there’s a lot of trust that has to come with the people that you’re dealing with.

Isn’t it? It’s so much trust. And it’s people,

 

I take on the responsibility of wanting to guide, of wanting to be responsible for your rig, because you’re nervous and I want to be able to guide you safely, not only for your own personal body, but for this very expensive vehicle. And I think it really does take a special, it takes a special group that wants to help and wants to do that. And I think you hit the nail on the head when I, you said that the trip itself is what gave you the confidence to want to go, to have that experience. And I think if you see a trip that’s available and you get that feeling, go for it. Drive as fast as you can towards it, because it really will change your life. That’s what happened with me and Moab, it changed my life when I saw the opportunity and it was like, well, should I do it? Yes.

 

Absolutely.

Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely do it. Yes. And you’re going to go, you know, people that don’t know anybody say they’re new to an area, just go to a Jeep meet, so start talking to people and just get out there and you’ll find your crew, you’ll find it. You’ll find where you fit in and with your experience. But my recommendation is to always wheel with people that are better than you. Because you’re going to learn so much.

Yes, put that on a coffee cup. That is so it because thank goodness in this sport, in the industry, there is always going to be someone else that I think that, and they’re going to push you to get to that level. And that’s pushing them to even get to a higher level. I’m doing a lot of hands today, aren’t I? Ah, so levels, levels. But it is true. And you know, I love that as a community, we do push each other and strive to keep building and getting better and better. No matter what your rig build is, I’ve seen some very built rigs, but the person has only wheeled maybe once or twice, but then they’re signing up for like, you know, the hard or extreme lines. And just because the rig can do it, doesn’t mean the driver can yet and to keep them safe. And also they want to keep doing it. I feel like you can overextend yourself. And then it’s like, well, I don’t want to do this anymore because I was scared or it just wasn’t fun because of the mental strain that it put on you.

Right. So for example, yeah. For example, when we went to Holy Cross, I ran into a situation where we got over a really big obstacle and I had bent my drag link. And so we get Zabo and I get ready to go down the trail and my steering wheel is upside down. And I was like, oh gosh, it’s all on the righty. I was like, I don’t, there’s something wrong. I don’t think this is right.

 

And my drag link was just flopping everywhere. And I was like, oh goodness. So even though I was able to do Holy Cross, it messed up my confidence. And it wasn’t anything that I did wrong. It wasn’t anything that Charlie had done wrong. It was the way I had landed coming off of an obstacle. And it just, it was a trifecta of landing wrong, jerking the steering wheel, and it just bent it. So the next day when we went to Chinaman’s Gulch, I was shaky. I was just like, what? We fixed it, Roger. Thankfully we found a drag link at O’Reilly’s, we put a new one on, we put it back on the trails, jumping right back into it. And Mark and Roger really had to tell me, are you gonna try this obstacle? I’m like, no. I was just, my confidence was shot.

For sure, I’ve been there.

Yeah.

Exactly.

And so they would tell me, no, you need to do it. You’re gonna be fine. We’re gonna get you through it. And sure enough, they got me through it. I went and got some great pictures and some great content. And I was like, okay, all right, we’re back. We’re back. We’re back. We’re back. Don’t let one failed day, it is really as a sport. We talk about being a sport. It takes so much mentally, physically, and you’re gonna have some days that are off. You’re gonna have some days that you’re not gonna win. You’re gonna hit an obstacle, you’re gonna break something and fix it, learn from it, and then apply that to your next trip where you’re going out.

The learning becomes, the lesson becomes a leadership. That’s all the thing. Yes, for sure. Same with horses too. Like we always talk about the big one and being like a bad wreck on a horse, right? So, it’s just a matter of time before it happens. And I think the same goes through with wheeling, no matter what level you’re doing, something, you’re gonna have your quote, big one.

 

I don’t know if I’ve had mine yet. I mean, I wanna think that I did with the flop.

 

But I will say, everyone went to this event called Wheeling with Warn after the Great Smoky Mountain Jeep invasion. I’ve been seeing a lot of videos coming out of Wheeling with Warn Day at Windrock. And there’s a gentleman named Mr. Carnage who’s very wild to follow. I highly recommend it, guys. He does smash angry grills. It is really funny when he does those videos, but his ride went to Panther Rock, which is a badge of honor trail, and several Jeeps flopped right where I did. So, I started in the rut that I thought I had to try to avoid, which that was not true because I was following a much wider rig. I’m on 35, they were on 40s. I didn’t know my lines at all at that time. So, it’s not my first year Wheeling, but your first year, it’s a lot of growing.

 

(Laughs)

For sure.

But more people were flopping there, so I don’t, it kinda actually gave me a little bit of confidence this weekend after seeing some of those videos. And no one got hurt, because you’re going so slow, and it’s just this so slow motion moment.

You just feel it happening. It’s like, oh!

So, I was kind of like, actually, I felt relief a little bit. I was like, oh, I’m not the only one in this club where it’s the exact same spot it happened.

 

So, it just happens. And damage is going to happen no matter what kind of pavement you’re leaving to go on. So, I think just having that mindset and being okay with it, I mean, that’s helpful. Even with Kentucky pinstripes, as we call them, those great pinstripes that you get from the trees. So, I think about that.

Absolutely. And a lot of people think, because I don’t trailer. So, I’m taking my rig from Texas to Colorado, but I also have to bring it from Colorado back to Texas. Yes, you do. So, it may feel apprehensive, and that’s okay. For those that trailer their Jeeps, they can get a little bit more dangerous, because you know what? They can just trailer it back. For those of us that have to drive it, you tend to be a little more apprehensive about the level of obstacle that you’re about to go over. But again, if everybody around you knows what you’re doing and what your goal is, they can help you through it. And if anything, if you don’t have a winch, put yourself behind or in front of somebody that has a winch and they can get you out. And that’s the famous line of don’t forget, you have to drive this home, stupid.

That’s right. Yeah. Best sticker ever, everyone needs this. I mean, I will say I love that I haul, but it also, it’s like a blessing and a curse, because I feel like it’s given me a different mindset, where I tend to be more like, well, I don’t have to drive it home, stupid. You should try it. And that’s not a good mindset to have,

 

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Dry shampoo. Lifesaver. Lifesaver.

Remember to embrace the thrill of the off road, embody your own unique style and always keep pushing the boundaries of what you thought possible because anything is possible when we put our minds to it. Thanks guys. We’ll see you next time.

See ya.

 

Broadcasting Sense 2010.

 

Great job, Janet. That was so much fun.

Yay. That was fun. I always love doing this with you.

Me too. Well, it’s been a great morning. So I know people probably didn’t realize you’re recording in the morning, but cheers to the coffee cup.

I know. Cheers to coffee.

 

You’re my friend, you’re my new friend.