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Alright, so this is actually a Steve O question and the one he left today So what part was absolutely wonderful is a great part You love you got it for your Jeep and I guess it doesn’t have to be for the Jeep But you love it. You love the part, but it had no or bad instructions I know we talked about this I think it was last week and you guys were complaining about I think it was actually was Chuck complaining about the motor built Skid system didn’t have any instructions
I think it was just a drawing a series of drawings that that comes with the motor belt skid system I mean, it’s kind of like you fit the the the round peg in the square hole and put a bolt in it It’s it’s pretty simple
So, this is a map North Carolina and then my hunt for death wobble survival I Put on I basically fixed it but I put on the steer smarts sector staff brace and track bar Reinforcement bracket and I actually posted on discord this weekend with Chuck where they had they hadn’t included instructions and included a QR code and then also the size of the socket for removing the
Sector shaft bolt on the steering pump was one millimeter off So I had special order of 50 42 millimeter socket and the sector shaft bolt that stock is 43
I love that
All right, Steve from Chicago. So mine was I ordered some fender liners from Rugged Ridge It was a three-piece liner said I got through North Ridge And my buddy had I like to look on his Jeep and I went to put them in but the instructions worked their core instructions, right But the fender liners are black and they’re installing them on a black Jeep
So you get the black the brackets are black the nuts and bolts are black So you really have no depth perception you’re trying to look at of course I’m wearing my reading glasses now and I you just can’t see any definition of the lines of what they’re trying to show in the instructions
So that was it was it was a lot bigger struggle than it needed to be in my opinion They used a white red green, whatever Jeep other than the same color as the part
See this is this is Greg from Michigan and all these things so far really excited me because yesterday we actually packed our first 56 sets of pre-orders and They’re actually gone FedEx has them. We’ll be packing some more in the next couple days But our instructions I put a QR code in the box
But the QR code is attached to the paper instructions that are in black and white with high definition photos and All the words so if you could only read you can still install them if you can look at pictures you can install them or if you’re a New kid who plays with all the fancy gadgets. You can also Scan the QR code because I hate not having real world paper instructions in my box
And if you guys don’t know know Greg Greg is an unofficial He’s only he’s been doing a lot of stuff for a number of years mainly building vehicles for customers and now he’s making parts For vehicles and he’s talking about his door pockets. I get today. We shipped out the very first 56 sets
Today oh, yeah It’s close to a year from not initially conception before whenever the process started, right? It’s actually over a year. Oh, wow So the first prototype set was put on the JTE for quadratec and that would have been almost two years ago
But since we started dealing with the manufacturing company and figuring out and you know Deciding them make the tool and all the other parts. Yeah, it’s it’s been just over a year
Congratulations on getting to this getting this far in the process As I was gonna say Greg has a solution for those saggy nets on the the JL than the JT. It’s it’s a nice plastic Door pocket and and correct me on any of this Greg. It’s not like nobody has a solution That there are solutions out there for the saggy door nets, but they’re generally I’ll just say it they’re fucking ugly I And this and this is a very nice factory. I always like to call Greg’s stuff OEM plus So it it looks OEM, but whatever you really examine it you go. Well, this is really nice so and I think anybody that Has these door pockets coming in you’re gonna be really really excited about seeing them on there because it’s it looks factory I’d like to see jeeps are doing these things get rid of the nets and start using your door pockets Greg Oh if they want to use my door pockets, they’re more than ready because our tool is done and ready and we are printing parts so You know took a long time coming and a lot of effort and oh my god more cash than I could ever dream of
but We’re doing it and I’m off screen because I’m actually grabbing one right now Those cuz Roger was grabbing you know, yeah, this one had the saggy net on it
No, I threw the saggy net away
So here’s here’s a door
This is factory door
That’s the
It’s got the logo on it. Oh, I know what I’m doing this weekend. Isn’t that nice? Yes
And it unlike some of the competitors
Because this stays flush If you have a 2024 model year with the electric seats it does work
We saw on one of the JL pages on Facebook that I Think it’s the DV8 set doesn’t work with the 2024 electric doors and I’m pretty certain that the American adventure lab ones because those are their two biggest competitors and you know again, they’re a great product, but To me they’re not refined enough. They look like origami. It looks like somebody
Took a piece of paper and folded it up and it’s got all these hard crease lines because they break bend them And we wanted something that looked like It came with your Jeep from the back. Yes, that’s the nice thing. I mean you get the you get additional features and
Still remain keep the the overall style of the vehicle
It will fit you know like
It fits your
It fits all your bottles, you know, this is something interesting that raptors drinking but that fits just without a problem
It’ll even fit your girlfriend Stanley So And then the rear door pockets are even bigger I don’t have one mounted on a Jeep, but this is what the rears look like
It’s funny Roger walks away while he’s saying that
So that’s a rear And if you can kind of tell based on How deep the cavity of the tool is? You know if I put my arm across it
This this fits a lot more so this the rear door you can put like children’s tablets or other things fit and with this On the plastic of the door
This part will even fit a full-size oil can you know oil?
container
And we also have a cup holder that goes along with it the cup holder won’t ship for another few weeks, but You know we I call it the trash can because it looks like a trash can but This cup holder snaps into the molly on the rear door
So that means if you want if you want your kids armed you can put a molly gun holster back there too Yeah Yeah, that’s gonna ship separate The tool isn’t completely finished for that. So that ship separate it is it is being done, but it’s not here yet. So Which sucks because I have to eat a little more shipping on the pre-orders, but
That’ll ship separate and there’s a few people who ordered just ordered one We’re just gonna give them two and then as one other fun part we were talking about it last night we don’t know if we’ll do it, but I Think we’re gonna put once the once the pre-orders done on the door pockets We’re gonna go live with another promotional special that says If you can prove that you have one of the competitors products installed on your Jeep
We will give you the cup holders for free, which is $50 off
So I know you can’t do it because the cost involved but it would be pretty funny if the cup holder you actually made it a trash can so you could get a full-size trash can And the flexible nature would make it nice because you could overfill it and then put extra extra trash in it Well tell you so so just for For people to understand and I’ll grab it again
So this is again the cup holder and it fits, you know multiple different things, right? So
all the way up to very large ones because the cup holder is A Plastic or rubber so it’s flexible. So when you put something large in it, it just expands on the inside
But the tool for just this part
Made in the USA is over $20,000. Yeah
The one you have in your hands is 3d printed. So that’s that one was not made with the tool, right? Yeah, the one in my hand took 14 hours on a 3d printer on an industrial 3d printer To make it out of this material. But so this this was not cheap at all
Because I don’t own that printer so I had to pay for it but
Yeah, the tool for just this part and there’s three parts here in my hand. So just this part was over 20 grand And then on the inside the actual molly lock There’s a piece here and then you can see a screw in there and then there’s a piece on the outside and that’s this is we’re patenting that but it’s So it slides into the molly and when you turn it that locks it in place That’s why we call it twisted molly lock and we can so just the lock portion is what we’re patenting And that’s so that we can also put Holsters on it, you know, you could put a holster on that and lock it on your molly You could put really anything you want to do attached to molly. We could use it to hang on it So the the actual if you’re watching and watching this on on YouTube, which you should just go to YouTube and search for Jeep talk show the the 3d printed part that Greg was showing kind of has lines in it like what 3d printed parts do and With the screen good enough to see that I can see it Yeah, and so you won’t see that and the the ones made in the the the die press the tool It’ll be no and I don’t know if you probably can’t see that but on the inside of it Trying to get a light behind it My logo Yeah, oh cool. Is it dishwasher safe? Yes Yes, it is It’s it’s pressure washer safe. It’s definitely just washer safe as far as It would be river safe. We even put drainage holes in the bottom So it can’t get over full and so that even Condensation like if you pull this out of your dramatic fridge and drop it in there The condensation wouldn’t trap and you know, it would drip out So they can escape to see no Rick
You could fit a whole bunch of ducks inside of this I can’t believe you said that
Yeah, well that’s when it comes in as the trash can you just throw the ducks in the trash can
On Allison’s birthday, how dare you? Alright, so is it Allison’s birthday? That’s what I’ve seen posted online that it was either yesterday or today I think it’s today
Still shame that she oh very much not with us anymore The tradition she made it’s horrible that she’s not with us. Yeah, because she did do a good thing So let’s jump over to Travis who we’ve already heard speaking Travis. You were here late So you may not have heard the question what part you got what what part did you was just absolutely wonderful? But you got no or bad instructions
My Light bars for my YJ back in 1993 when I purchased that I Don’t recall any instructions whatsoever To have that installed
It was not difficult, but I was also a kid installing it I figured it out. I got it done, but it was a time-consuming process and A headache from what I remember and then that Jeep was it was totaled and I bought my second in 92 as well
And I figured it out. It was much quicker process, but I do remember just The nightmare of figuring that out everything else as far as I could recall had instructions Do I open them do I look at them? every Everything everything that I purchased for my Forex II I bought second hand So I did not have the instructions Did not initially ask for help, you know, I’m with my buddies. We’re all getting everything installed. I Did have to pull out, you know go online to find the instructions to have things mounted installed But you figure it out you learn the hard way. I definitely It was my suspension I was putting I can’t remember what it was backwards with my rock crawler suspension and Had we dropped the Jeep off the lift, you know and brought it down off the lift. I’ll drop it. It would have Been damaged but we caught that After we pulled the instructions back out to do it because I don’t put lists on that often It’s not something I do on a daily basis
I’ve helped I’ve been a part of but This doing it myself doing putting my own on it was Yeah, I’m glad I did read them after the fact and that was rock-crawler. They had everything It’s a good idea that even if you don’t I mean a lot of stuff is intuitive But it’s a good idea to just cruise through the instructions. It actually will speed up the the process if you go through It’s one of the reasons why like going to YouTube and and seeing how somebody did it on YouTube Because it’s like this is where this part is. This is this is I can identify They have those you know, they have that those those sheets of instructions that have bolt sizes and nut sizes They’ve got 27 nuts on there. They’re different sizes. They all look the same on the the handout
It’s just like you know So sometimes it just helps to to be see what somebody else is doing it and get a good size Reference with them putting it on there. All right, so Aquaman Arkansas Aquaman has his hand raised and if you’re you’re here on our Zoom meeting you can raise your hand too if you’d like to get in on this conversation. What you got Rick? Oh cool Well, I’m just proud that you saw my hand raised. That’s pretty pretty exciting. Um, a couple things
Most recently, I just put Some old man emu Coils in and when I got the coals and I mean I didn’t think nothing about it. I mean their coils you stick them in
Then I got to looking at them and they one of them had part a and one of them had part B So then I was like, oh, what’s this? So then I start looking at it and one of them is supposed to be a heavier spring than the other So then I get to looking around and I can’t find it anywhere where it tells me which one Goes where and I started calling around and asking around eventually I found out the information But just for something as simple as a coal spring you think that you know, you think that is pretty pretty cut and dry But turns out the a part number is is the heavier spring and and in the front They want you to put that on the driver side because of you know, you got some fat bad boys. Yeah the fat boy side Yeah, the fat boy side and in the other thing that and you know, that wasn’t that big of a struggle But it was kind of annoying that I was kind of paused You know for about an hour while I was trying to research and figure out where this cool went when I was ready to put it in but
The other thing was I think it was the savvy
cable the the
transfer case selector for the TJ Because I went from you know, the stock one is trash. And so I got one of the cables selector cables and installed that and it just took me a while because there was a lot of doodads with that and both ends and Making sure I got it You know just in right The instructions were just pretty much, you know, yeah, you put it in No, it wasn’t wasn’t to me. It wasn’t very clear instructions and it took me a while to figure out and I had to move some pieces from one end to the other and try that and Just because they’re getting it I mean once I got it dialed in and that thing is so easy to shift from you know It’s nice isn’t it from yeah from to to wheel to for high and for low and everything It just man. It’s awesome. Yeah, I think there’s a lot of people out there that are very good technically or mechanically But they’re not good in technical writing and it’s Just from the but a hands-on type person whether it be computers or Jeeps or whatever I much rather be doing it or making the part or Making it work and then being happy that it works exactly the way I wanted to work and and not writing instructions on how to use It’s like well, I figured it out you figure it out
And for both of those maybe that’s something that’s just general knowledge that most Jeep people know with I started Instructions are critical and good instructions is an art form
All right, so oh I know somebody that has either for his his own vehicle or
Professionally rich have you run across that a wonderful part, but it had no or bad instructions I Bet your rich is taking a tire wheel off his XJ as we speak George how about you do you do you have a part or something that you installed and that this did really didn’t have very good instructions?
George from Michigan. No most of the time I go to YouTube that being said I’m I’m looking forward to getting my Package my door packets from unofficial you show me so we’ll see how those directions are We can actually give the manufacturer a hard time right here on the round table Where are you at George?
Elmont, Michigan, I think I’m only about less than an hour from you Okay, cuz it was funny yesterday when we were Packaging up the or getting ready to send out those first 60 or 56 sets There was one of the shipping labels it was and
Just to kind of back up but the the production facility or the manufacturer where we’re actually making them is in Clinton Township and Okay, so one of the orders was literally like six miles from the And yeah, and we joked about it I almost put him in the Jeep and drove to the guy’s house and knocked on the door yesterday but
Instead we let FedEx take it because I didn’t want that to be weird For buying my part what a great promotional video that be Yeah, I really thought about doing it. I was gonna do it. I was I even brought a couple hats I dropped a couple hats and a few of the boxes and I thought you know I can go to the guy’s house and drop them off and give them a hat but then I was like You know that might be kind of creeper weird so
What about a story that that person would have told for a very long time? I think that you need to get you need to get some videographers involved in that process. I think that’d be really funny And the creeper it would be it would be the better because people would love seeing that I think they go Oh, that’s is really creepy. I got to order some door pockets Well, I’ll tell you what if if we’re when we’re packing to the rest if I find the one if I personally see it That says elm but I might actually just drop it off Like that’s I only work at the next city over from Clinton Township. So It’s funny. I’m not very close. I grew up. Yep, right there So what happens if the the person they and they know that where they live and they’re going oh I could have met Greg and he decided not to bring it by that’s not weird to come on by Greg All right, so let’s let’s let him finish let him finish his answer I As soon as he said, Michigan, I’m sorry go right ahead
No, that was it I’m it’s real Clinton Township’s local to me so I grew up right there It’s that’s mine, you know, so you’re freaked out if I’d have knocked on your door last night. Oh, yeah I Know I recognize you
So be someone’s wife and they’d be like my husband order what oh my god, I didn’t think about that. Thank God. They’re cheap Yeah, thank god
Body dude cheap, it was only $10,000 All right, so let’s all glens on the screen Glenn Let’s let’s ask you have you ever had a part that you just the fart was perfectly fine Did what it was supposed to do and you liked it, but it had no or bad instructions
Glenn from Louisiana, so I think my biggest thing is I usually don’t go to the instructions until I’m too far into the project
They’re both those both those apply
Bob they’re working on cars since I was 15. I’m 54 now. So
I’ve had a lot of experience and
putting stuff together rebuild motors and so I’m kind of just dive into it and see what happens I Very cool very very cool. All right. Let’s see who who has not answered. Oh, I see Chris is here Chris Did you hear the did you hear the question about the parts and the instructions? I didn’t see when you joined
Wjcris come on down
Yeah, I
Actually, I’ve never really had one that’s not been good
But Where there was a confusing lucky when you were doing the long arms on your now deceased WJ was that
So rough country actually when I bought that system from them it actually had a really good
Like paper book that told you down to what hole down to what bolt down to the spec everything and And so whenever I Put mine together even whenever they do the black on black contrast the part you’re installing is actually they painted it gray
Like a really bright gray
Interesting very good
So even though we’ll give them a really crappy time about all their stuff being junk they do really good instructions
And some of their parts are good. I will say oh Yeah, absolutely. It’s just I think whenever you’re buying stuff. It’s hard to you. How much of it. Do you want to? Spend the roulette wheel and see if this is one of those parts and which is not the part I mean like I Well my xj everything I put on my xj to start with was rough country and I did it because I couldn’t afford the $3,000 stuff and that’s money but back in the early 2000s I’m not afford I couldn’t afford all that high dollar stuff I mean my god So if I want to do a lift I could just save up my money collect the aluminum cans on the side of the road And then get one of the big deal things and also too you never know whenever there’s the the big deal kits that come out that They put a big price on it that really isn’t worth that I mean when you’re starting out You don’t know so yeah, I did the rough country stuff and I found that the heavy-duty track bar Was not heavy-duty enough For my xj, and I didn’t do much wheeling with it because the overheating issue driving it very far and I bent that thing and I think I drove it for like three months with the steering wheel kind of crooked because the the Heavy-duty track bar screwed up on me and and later. I replaced it with well They actually did great customer service and sent me another one But I actually replaced that with one from Iron Man four by four fab calm and that one don’t bend I mean, I’m sure there’s some way I could do it, but it’s just it’s just really beefy so And the price on it was very very similar to what the rough country was so Price performance is what I say
Yep all right. Let’s see rich. Are you back? I
Think so rich is back rich. I was asking maybe you’ve already heard this, but what part was wonderful But you had no or bad instructions, and this is personal and professional Oh I’m trying to think because I deal with a lot of different parts Do you read instructions or do you look for them later? I’m usually just kind of glance over them and Everyone’s all look through there to see if they have any special torque specs and whatnot but For the most part
TeraFlex has been decent Off the top of my head, I can’t really think of I know there’s a few other ones I just can’t think of them at the moment so is there are other manufacturers that you prefer So is there are other manufacturers that you prefer because of the the quality of the instructions I mean you mentioned TeraFlex are decent is there ones where you get a customer and they want blah blah blah And and you go okay great. This will be this will be a piece of cake I mean, I know some of the stuff you do so so many times you don’t need the instructions, but is there a Manufacture where the instructions are just really good, and you know if you’re gonna have any issues You just go there and you can find the question very easily Or the answer easily
Usually the TeraFlex is pretty good about that rough country. There’s someone said before They’re very good about it And There’s I know there’s other ones There’s a lot of them that are more on the Toyota side of things that are very good Icon stuff like that They’re they’re pretty good
But yeah, there’s for the most part you can find a lot of the instructions online somewhere
The the other thing is a lot of companies are doing the videos now instead of paper instructions so you have to go through and find the YouTube video of how they install it and Some of them are up to date and some of them are a few years old and they’ve made some changes since then so it’s yeah That’s true
So how many people here love the Northridge the Northridge videos? I think they do great videos installation videos
Yeah, I found the water tech ones are the best in my opinion, but then I buy it in Northridge anyway When I’m looking through the instructions I’m usually looking for that gotcha thing that that one little thing that if you don’t put you put this real complicated thing together and then and Then you get to go to put it in and you realize there’s that one little thing you had to put in first That’s how you got to take it all apart to put that one thing in that’s what I’m always looking for is that gotcha thing All right, well if anybody if nobody else has anything to add to this We’ll we’ll jump over to our next question. So this is kind of a this is an opportunity for You guys to mention other shows of their podcast that you guys listen to and you enjoy
We’re not gonna hear the Jeep talk show. We’re not gonna pretend. We’re the only podcast out there and who’s that Joe Rogan guy? So is there any other off-road shows that you watch or listen? To I mean Then there’s plenty of time of the day to watch more than one show or listen to one more than one show And I’m sure you guys do so. Let’s so let’s go with Mike Mike’s iPhone It’s what it’s listed here Mike. Is there any other show that you listen to assuming you do listen to the Jeep talk show
Yeah, I usually listen to that one and then I also did the on the trail with Kevin and Scott. Oh good. Yes. Yeah
Pretty much about it me
Did you see where
Kevin not Kevin I’m brain farting on the name Scott. Did you see where Scott sold his his LJ? I Heard he put up for sale. I didn’t realize it’s all I saw it on Facebook It’s it’s going away and it’s that’s so sad to me. I mean, he’s he’s got a gladiator and I understand The I’m sure the gladiators all things I think he’s still driving the gladiator. He’s just got the wrong color. I think it was black And but yeah LJ going to a new home And doesn’t he have an older one too or his girlfriend does I? Don’t know Okay
World War two
One I think oh nice His girlfriend had a Early one. Yeah. Yeah, I think we were Putting it back together. I think they had an episode or two of that too So so was that a girlfriend requirement? Did he have to does she have to have a Jeep to be a girlfriend?
Well for me it does All right, Matt you you just spoke up Matt I’m gonna pick on you what what other shows do you listen to and I Let you guys know I am making a list here and you will be paid back for mentioning the wrong shows
Um Jeep wise I really have had a hard time finding anything really solid so there’s there’s On the trail, but other than that like I’ve listened to some of Matt’s in from metal cloak and Cory and Jesse do
Do one and But it’s a little bit less about jeeps and kind of more about their travels. That’s modern jeepers. And so it’s You know, I pray I’m listening to that in a year, but I don’t know I mean, there’s really not a lot of great off-road ones all I’ll subscribe to one listen to a couple episodes I’m not even get through one or two of them. Oh, it’s so difficult. There’s so many choices out there We’re very blessed that you guys show up here for the the the roundtable every week. It’s just it’s an amazing. It’s a gift Absolutely. I mean we try to do the best show we can do so that you do come back But yeah, it’s it’s very nice for all you guys and it’s wonderful seeing a lot of new names here in the zoom room We really appreciate it So is there what do you got that? What do you listen to or watch that? isn’t initially off-road related do you have a are you are you into the those What was it crime and murder type things because I know a lot of the women are not not picking on you Matt But some of those mysteries are interesting But I don’t really listen to it on like on the day-to-day, you know commutes to work or anything But one that we my wife and I listened to and one of our longer trips Is a National Park after dark and it’s it’s kind of a true crime, but it’s that’s Sounds like that could be really bad
Specifically it’s it’s like a warning around national parks and national forests. And so it’ll have you know stories of you know You know some true crime style stuff You know Where people went out and survived something crazy in a national park, you know, they the grizzly grizzly and bear attack stuff They’ll talk about so it’s it’s two younger gals. I think they’re both in and Colorado or something now, but it’s they’ve got a lot of good Solid stories and they’re good storytellers. So that’s more of a they literally will go, you know, kind of You know read through or you know recount a tale people that are good storytellers are are really special people. It’s it’s difficult to tell a Story and it make it interesting and maybe not give away too much so that keeps you interested in the story
Roger’s a good example of a bad storyteller Roger’s like what what do I story tell about?
Your ear stuff like that Was either recycle the air recycle there that Yes, circulation button the circulation. Yes
All right. Well we picked on Roger we haven’t picked on Travis yet No, we’re not done. So let’s let’s go to Kevin Kevin Do you listen to other off-road shows or watch other off-road shows and if so, what?
Do people need to quit going to the bathroom go to the bathroom for the show starts
How about you Greg I know Greg’s ready to he’s right there he’s gonna be jumping on really quick look he’s not he’s not even unmuted so Greg unofficial use only mr. Door pocket
I’m here. I didn’t realize I was muted either. Oh, go ahead Kevin. So Kevin do yet Do what other shows do you listen to her watch off road? Yeah, I listened to the snail trail with the Tyler from more flight for a while the snail trail That sounds like something from light bright. Oh wait. That’s their only fans
Wrong snow, man I listened to wheeling wine and whiskey for a while They’re both out of like the Northern California area. I have not heard of that one They do a lot of kind of they do the wheeling and then they’re also very into like their local wineries and whiskey manufacturers, so That’s kind of interesting if you’re into those things And then a non off-road one. That’s really good if you’re into just mechanical and like vehicle history Is dork emotive by Brian loans?
Very nice. All right, Greg’s back. We didn’t hear you flush Greg. So that’s good You need you mute that Mike whenever you need to know I was getting a Mountain Dew and a meat stick
So Greg is there another another show that you listen or watch I’m Amy or one that you that you’re on I mean, I know you’re recording something a while ago that that with Courtney. What’s your name? Oh Well, that was a TV show that wasn’t a podcast yeah, I know but it’s still I mean they’re blurring the lines these days between TV shows and This shows on the on the internet Right. So yeah a few years ago. I was fortunate 2019 we traveled the country and we’ve we actually filmed an entire series for Motor Trend And then Covid hit and we didn’t get to do the finale so it never aired I did get paid for the whole year. So that was worth it And that was with Courtney Hanson was a host and there we go. Terry met Terry Madden was a co-host but
That was a lot of fun other than the fact it never aired so that sucked I think only the pilot aired But as far as ones that I currently like watch and listen to There’s a podcast it’s only been around for a little bit. I think they’re I don’t know what episode they’re on 50 or something but it’s called chew quieter and It’s it’s a couple guys who are staples in the industry. They’ve been they’ve been
Within the off-road industry for quite some time and it’s funny if you look at the listener base on their Facebook It’s all people who are deeply embedded in the industry. So chew quieter. It’s it’s amazing they they don’t put up with any bullshit they’re calling people out who are
Bad people within the industry. They’re nice. They’re very honest and very open and I love it
So and they don’t hold back at all. So chew quieter With Gabe and them it’s it’s amazing. It’s really really really good and I know that they’re on
All the normal platforms, you know, they’re on Amazon they’re on all the other platforms iTunes and all that but it’s chew quieter and If you’re if you’re into the off-road industry and into Jeeps It’s definitely worth a listen Because they do they they don’t hold back and they’ve got some pretty good guests who are all deeply embedded in this industry And then another one is flex rocks and rollovers Marvin Stammell and the boys flex rocks and rollovers. They do some videos online. They do 24 hours Helen back Where they literally go out off-roading and and they’ll hit trails where they only make it two and a half or three miles in 24 hours
Massive amounts of carnage massive amounts of breakage Some really cool episodes and it really is pretty gnarly but Yeah, so that’s flex rocks and roll over rollovers and they’re on YouTube and they’re on Instagram and all that but those those ones are the only ones that I like continuously pay attention to The chew quieter one I’ve fallen in love with in the last couple months But Marvin and the team over at flex rocks and rollovers I’ve I’ve been friends with them for years and I support everything they do. They’re just good good down-to-earth awesome people I got to meet Marvin this this last time at EJS and did a little quick interview Side-by-side in the in the gladiator He’s a good guy and he really is he doesn’t mind that the teasing I gave him a hard time about something I can’t remember. What are those things that I say? It was like you son of a bitch. You can see in his face He’s just like he’s little bitch
So but yeah, we’ve had him on the show too so if you guys just if you’re interested in listening to that interview, you can just go to cheap talk show and do a search for flex rocks and rollovers
Marvin I didn’t ever ask Marvin this does Marvin have an only fans page as well As far as I know Marvin does not have an only fans page Yeah, it’s Marvin Stamlin. He’s he grew up in this industry. So When he was still a teenager his his father Who was a big promoter? and does the Off-road helmets the axle helmets. Oh interesting which are designed specifically to keep you safe off-road
So his his dad’s the one that started that company and still runs it and his dad’s name is axle That’s why that helmets are called axle. Oh, you have to be in the road industry with a name like axle And they’re both just amazing people but Marvin kind of started he was doing the promotions for
The unlimited off-road show so which used to be in Louisville and then they had one down in Texas and It was an amazing show and so well put together and just due to the stress of it They stopped doing it which really bummed me out His wife’s name was Dana But yeah, then Marvin started flex rocks and rollovers and he really is aside from the fact he’s got an amazing Jeep Oh that commander is amazing. It’s really cool to see it in person, too Yeah, the only thing that bums me out is that started as a 72 bullnose and they put the older front end on it and Once upon a time I actually had an opportunity. He was gonna ship it up here and let me build it
But then you know, I got built elsewhere and they did such an amazing job I mean, there’s not a spot of that vehicle on it that doesn’t have some detail work. That’s worth checking out And even though it’s a beauty queen He beats the shit. Yes
So, but yeah Marvin that whole crew there it’s a good crew. They’re really good people So I respect him and I watch their stuff and pay attention to him. So we got to mention gone jeeping They haven’t disbanded or anything, right? I mean, there’s a gone jeeping a lot of gone jeeping videos on the on YouTube Gone GP in if you guys don’t already know which
No, we’re not disbanded or all we’re just you know, we’re all pretty busy and we all do it on free time No, I was just racing. I haven’t seen anything from gone jeeping in a while
Yeah, we even you know, we went down the podcast route for a minute. We we we did a few of them
But it was very hard to get all those personalities in one room at one time or it’s like hurting Because it’s Rick pay way and
Chris collard and Liam Lafferty and me and You know Mike Harrington, there’s there’s a few other and like a lot of those people were my heroes coming into this industry and You know, I get to work with them and I get to own us, you know gone jeeping with them, but You know, they have access to all my content and they still do we’re still putting YouTube videos up So there it is an active YouTube channel and there’s videos every week But we’re not really doing the podcast and stuff I Need to find out why YouTube isn’t I’m subscribed. I gotta find out why YouTube is not updating me that there’s a new video I’m gonna have to go over there to the thing and just check it. I suppose maybe you didn’t hit the like and subscribe button I definitely did the subscribe Maybe you didn’t do the notification buttons. Maybe not But oh and you know, hey, I have a YouTube channel that’s unofficially use only there’s there’s not a ton of stuff But there’s some pretty cool stuff on there if somebody wants to sit down and watch through all of it And we are like even yesterday when we were boxing we did some fun stuff and we’re gonna start putting a little more content out We did a video because in the in the production facility where we were at They have what they call a gantry crane and a gantry crane is a crane that’s attached to the roof of the building and it covers the whole building and I I may have come in like a wrecking ball for some of the video. Oh
Somebody left me unsupervised and I found the remote for it So they were all doing their thing and all of a sudden I was running it up into the ceiling because I just chained myself To it and wanted to see go for a ride. So they started filming it. Yeah, there’s not a lock on something. I’m with you, man
Yeah, yeah when you’re standing there the remote for a ten-ton overhead crane is sitting there and you’re like
And it’s a Bluetooth one. So it doesn’t have a cord. Oh, yeah, I went for a ride
All right, oh I know this will be a good one how about you Travis what other off-road shows do you watch or listen to
I’m taking a bite of food. I don’t listen to much at all ever honey music
Still I’ve got a road trip. I’m heading the mountains. I’ll listen to your show
On the way to the mountains other than that. I’m not a YouTube guy I don’t really if I need something search or something I will at that point but so you thought a routine habit to watch you – so you’re saying you I’ve got so you’re saying you only listen to the Jeep talk show
When I listen to a talk when I listen to a podcast, yes. Yeah, that is true Yes, I guess I’ll do a pity ding on this one because that’s not that’s not what I was looking for Was consistently when you became when it became five episodes
I’m almost I’ve got myself behind and I’m like
But I’m here every Tuesday. All right, yeah, I appreciate that but I’m gonna tell you something we had a Gentleman that was having a hard time with the discord server that because he would jump on and he’d have to scroll back To find out what was going on and we told him you don’t have to do that You just jump on then get on the top just do the conversation now You don’t have to catch up if you feel like and this isn’t just for you Travis I’m not just picking on you about this, but anybody yeah, we do have a lot of episodes five episodes a week You don’t have to listen to every one of them I mean the the the guy that started the show would like me to listen to all of them and two or three times It’d be great But but you don’t have to just jump off whenever you feel like being entertained and or maybe you see something that Tweaks your interest like we did the released one on Tuesday said Wrangler recall The Wrangler recall was for 30 Wranglers
But if you’re like Wrangler recall what’s being recalled, let me listen to them Let me find out what’s going on and then maybe you just listen to a bit of it You get the answer and then you move on
It’s well, I’ll listen to my entire trip to the mountains and back for the Great Smoky Mountain Jeep invasion I’ll listen the whole way up and the whole way back. I did that when I went up to Murphy or I think was Murphy for a Jeep invasion and I’ll do it and down the beach any road trip I do that when I’m just stuck in traffic. I’m usually listen to music blaring me out and just Relax, so when I listen to the music, it’s your own music, right? You’re playing it through some of the some digital means it’s not a repetitive thing like you get from radio stations That’s the thing. It always killed me about listening to music like from the Serious exam I’ll do red white and booze because it’ll go from country, which I love just some classic rock and it’s back and forth It plays a lot of new music or music. I’ve forgotten about The serious satellite a lot like I’m a big country fan. I always repetitive It’s the same five songs over and over. I’ll do Pandora I add a bunch of different artists that I like and It mixes it up. It’s actually done very very well. Yeah, and I’ll go from 90s rock to you know 90s country – I mean it’s across the board on that aspect I like serious from the standpoint when you’re listening to that You do hear a human voice Ever so often it’s different than like like if you just have a USB drive that you stick into the The head unit and just you just have the music that’s nice But it’s cool having that that DJ voice ever so often in there. So yeah, it’s I’ve got that as well It’s it’s nice. Let’s let’s see what bill does bill. What do you what do you do as far as off-road shows? Do you watch or listen to?
This is pretty much the only one I listen to I think other than that I listen to think Joe Rogan and some other podcast that was my wife’s Podcast is you know gives us something? Oh, that’s right. Tell us about that podcast again. I forgot about that She’s she and her friend are still doing that
Yeah, they’re doing it once a week. I think they’re up like 25 episodes or something like that. I think they have a A back backlog of episodes they recorded so, you know like vacation or meet out of town They can make sure that they’re always publishing at least one. So Once a week or whatever, but yeah, it’s a bad date podcast and they started out with just Friends getting on there and family and kind of telling stories but then listeners started calling in and started getting on the show and And then and then I think they’ve had people that don’t want to be on the air, but they written in so they’ll bring in You know somebody to kind of read that or rekind of create that that bad date But it’s a you know, it’s kind of some of the stuff that these ladies go through is pretty mortifying
The dating apps and whatnot. But so do you have the guts to listen to it so you can ask her are you talking about me? Oh Sometimes like, you know, yeah I’m like or I’m listening like I think I may have done something like that or whatever like things that they find cringy as like Guys are guys are stupid guys are just cringy period. I mean, you know, yeah, you do the best you can do And it’s amazing that we get along with women as well as we do
Yeah, she’s having a good time and appreciate the Input or help, you know getting her started getting all the getting those things published published and out there like, you know It’s a little little hard to kind of get started. So yeah, sure Yes, no, but it’s funny or in the right direction No, of course and congratulate her and her friend on that because getting you know The getting the interaction is what we love to do here I mean, it’s it’s one thing to get somebody to listen to your shenanigans, but the purposely get involved in them that’s a big deal those are that’s like having a difference between a friend the casual friend and a good friend or a Best friend because you know, the best friend is gonna be involved in your shenanigans shenanigans So that’s kind of why I equate that to all right. Let’s so let’s jump over to Robert Robert what other off-road shows do you watch or listen to? As far as off-road shows I Sometimes watch Ozark overland adventure with Matt, but I haven’t been watching it much lately and then I
Tend to watch another one that’s campy lance, man He’s got a ambulance that he’s converted into an RV and living out of and I find him kind of interesting But does it still look like this still look like an emergency vehicle on the outside? Cuz I think that’d be funny just to deny service to people He did have it the What he called the December where it’s the cross and everything on it. He did have that for a while But then he finally covered it up But yeah, there’s a bunch of them that still leave it looking like an ambulance and only thing they’re not doing is running the lights Right. So let me ask you the the whole audience here all you zoom people How about Matt’s off-road recovery? I haven’t seen a Matt’s off-road recovery in a while I kind of lost interest Whenever it appeared to me and correct me if I’m wrong Well, he stopped using the the XJ for a lot of this stuff He built that new vehicle and I just thought it was so cool that he was doing all this stuff Commercially towing people out of stuck spots in Utah with an XJ. I thought that was just so cool Yeah, no, I still pay attention to him a little bit and that’s a good guy and I know they still use the issue But they did build the purpose built vehicle
But Rory Irish to tow Mater, right? He’s he’s an amazing dude like
You know and I forgot to mention them earlier But you know a lot of people don’t realize they don’t they don’t charge for that either So if you’re out in the middle of Moab and you break down and you need to call Rory Irish tow Mater They don’t charge you they come out and they do it they film you But you know those tow bills are free Where if you call a normal place or the DNR call somebody you know or the BLM It can cost you tens of thousands of dollars to get towed out and they do it for free They come out they fix you they tow you out the whole nine yards No charge. So they’re really good dudes. Rory Irish is an amazing guy tow Mater And he lives right in Moab where Matt and them they’re out and what is it Sand Hollow? Oh Thank George, but but they’re st. George But they are they’re down to earth real dudes. They’re good people
You know, I would follow them above a light bright any day
Does anybody watch light bright yeah, we’ve mentioned them derogatory comments little Jabs, I mean, I don’t I don’t know if you guys want to poke light pride I understand but it’s a little getting a little jab in here and there Well, if you really want to poke late bright watch your only fans And I don’t mean to be so rude They just you know They snubbed they snub enough people where I snub back and I shouldn’t I should be I should be better than that So I’ll stop making derogatory
Hidden comments for now, I guess is what you’re saying is you’ll stop it for now Does anybody watch my I mean I remember seeing light bright on YouTube And while maybe watching a little bit of the thing but to me they were doing just a horrific damage to things that I was Thinking why would you do that? And obviously it’s they were doing it for views, but it’s like it’s just it was nonsensical to me It just there’s nothing wrong with it. If you like it. It’s just it’s just like the seeing somebody Crush an XJ. It bothers me. I don’t like it the clash cash for clunkers thing bothered me So I just I just stick my head in the sand and deny it ever happened
All right, so I’m gonna just going I’m just gonna run through this here real quick because we’re not gonna get a chance to go Through this one, but have you guys heard that Toyota has announced no more ice vehicles No more internal combustion engine vehicles. They’re only going to be producing hybrid electric
I
Just heard that the other day and I don’t know if it means that they’re going to that the the internal combustion engine Is this going to be charging? Running a generator and charging the batteries or if it’s going to be actually be able to like the four by e where you can Run off the internal combustion engine And I’ll just state for the record. I love electric vehicles. They’re not planning on doing EVs just EVs they’re gonna but everything everything is coming out is gonna be a Hybrid vehicle so the I mean the the Toyotas I guess well, I don’t even keep up with what the off-road Toyotas are Would it be so strange? I mean, I guess it’s not that strange Matt off roads with his four by e So it just it just seems like it’s going the way that isn’t great it’s the things getting more complex instead of having one system now you’ve got two systems and Something can happen to one or the other I mean, it’s fine if one gets you down the road So you can fix the other one, but I don’t know I just the complexity is getting a lot a lot more I think it’s either have a Ready to go out and buy themselves an XJ or TJ right now
I’m curious about they were supposed to be putting out like a cheap like no frills truck That’s right. I forgot about that So what’s it gonna do with that?
That’s really strange I believe that’s only overseas. Oh So like like always all the other countries get the cool stuff It’s so and the reason for most of that is is the government mandates So yeah, a lot of people don’t realize this and I just you know, see most here not long ago filming an ad You know the Biden Harris pushed through this EV mandate without Congress or anybody else and hidden in the thousand-page document there’s things that say that you know as of 20 and I’m just giving random numbers not the ones that are in the paperwork But it says, you know as of 2030, you’re no longer allowed to modify your personal vehicle Even if you own it outright, you’re not allowed to make use aftermarket components on your vehicle That’s all hidden in the documents of the EV mandate. But some of the other stuff that a lot of people don’t realize you know for a company a modern company today like Jeep or somebody else to Manufacture a vehicle they they’re not allowed to manufacture a vehicle without a backup camera anymore Like it’s a government mandate that says you have to have that so you can’t build a no frills vehicle Because the government is telling them they’re not allowed to sell a vehicle that doesn’t have all of these things in it And there’s a huge list of things You know, so they can’t do like a Mahindra, right? they can’t do a vehicle that’s plain and simple and get the cost down because the government says they have to have This shutoff switch in it and they have to have this antenna in it and they have to have this backup camera And they have to have this system Right the government forces us Yeah, the government flat-out forces the automate manufacturers to do these things which just keeps inflating the price of the vehicle because they’re forced to do it and You know as some people might love some government control some people might not like government control You know that the beautiful part is this is American we’re supposed to be free and we’re supposed to be able to do what we want but to Have the government force this it’s the same thing as the tire pressure right as simple as the tire pressure on your vehicle a Two-door Jeep doesn’t weigh enough to need 37 pounds of air in the tire, but the government tells Jeep and auto manufacturer that if you build an SUV it has to have 37 pounds of air in the tire so You know that Jeep might run better and be safer and be more planted on the road at 25 psi But because the government says they have to they have to otherwise they’re not allowed to sell them
So I think and This is not political in any way at all my comments here. My comments are Why do we have to have so much government? Overreach when we’re supposed to be a free country, you know, the cost of these vehicles could be thousands and thousands of dollars cheaper if they weren’t forced to put in all these nanny systems and
And I understand it’s making it, you know mildly safer some things are making it mildly safer But another thing that makes it safe is they build in all this crash protection Use it. You don’t have to have five different types of braking on a car. You don’t have to have An antenna on a car that allows the police officer to turn your car off I was gonna mention the kill switch that’s been mandated. Yeah, like literally it’s it’s a government mandated thing They have to be in all the cars. So you know like I Forget what year it started in the Jeep So I think it was 12 when it became mandatory in the jeeps to have that that kill switch, but
But yeah, it’s the government forces them to do all these things So they have to do it like the backup camera or any of the other systems when I built the YJL for
Quadratec we pulled two hundred and thirty eight pounds of electrical systems out of that vehicle so two hundred and thirty eight pounds of Wiring and computers and bobs and busils and pulled it out threw it in the garbage And we replaced it with a fourteen pound wiring harness for an all YJ
You know, so 230 pounds. That’s a lot of gas mileage. Hmm
You know Yep, it just it irks me – I especially don’t like the kill switch I mean, I understand the purpose of that for the high-speed pursuits But I mean how many percentage wise how many people are involved in high-speed pursuits? And and what can the government use it for that isn’t legal that they’ll just try to Work it out in court as the reason why they use it There’s still high-speed pursuits that happen all the time even against brand-new cars. I mean a couple years ago There was a hellcat that was doing Over 200 miles an hour in California the problem and it was a great video. The problem is You know, I mean it outran the helicopter because the helicopter Was that gumball rally that that actually they were talking about it in the gumball rally or the cannonball run where they were actually Outrunning the helicopter that was chasing them. It was so funny. I was in a movie Yeah, it was in the movie and then it was in reality. I thought it was hilarious. Yep, but the
The thing is is that car has the shutoff But none of the normal police cars have it Right nothing the normal police cars can’t activate that system because they’re not all equipped with it just all the passenger cars are so So which cars are actually equipped with it? Is it just the secret service? Is it just you know? FBI or CIA or whoever I mean It’s the hackers that have figured it out and they’ll randomly go out and that would be fun That’d be a fun Friday night. Just go out there and shut people’s cars off
Yeah, so it’s
You know that that raises the price of the automobiles by forcing companies to put all these things in and you know You also have to pay your engineering staff to integrate it into the vehicle and you know that costs you tens of thousands dollars which also raises the price so
To make a no frills vehicle is very difficult to do nowadays because there’s so many furloughs that are flat-out government mandated Yeah, it’s we didn’t know that it’s illegal They are not allowed to sell you a car unless it has a backup camera well And even right back before the mandates like stuff was getting so overly complicated like when I was in high school in 2001 2002 Ford Explorers had miles of wiring in a 20-feet long vehicle miles. Yeah
Just insane
Yeah And just like Roger said I don’t know if you guys heard it, but it makes the driver stupid Right, if you don’t have to well as we always say and when I say we I mean me I guess that’s the royal we The the zoom meeting continues on even after we get done with the the recording of the show And you can be part of that. All you have to do is just join our zoom meeting So we’d love to have you here. We’d love for it to have you here as part of the show Just go to Jeep talk show comm slash contact to see how to join. It’s every Tuesday 7 30 p.m The the show recording starts about 8 p.m. Central time and goes on for about an hour We did about an hour and seven minutes so far tonight And if you missed the show the recording on Tuesday, you can listen or watch it on Wednesday So we record on Tuesday. We publish on Wednesday. Did I say right? Record on Tuesday publish on Wednesday and yes, you can watch it on YouTube and I think you’ll enjoy that It’s it’s nice seeing the people who who speak it’s not seeing what’s going on in the background At some of these places Greg’s place unofficial use only his shop is always very interesting He’s got something going on in the background almost all the time. Sometimes he’s working on things That you may see in SEMA we when Greg first started joining our zoom meetings He was working on the the JTE that he built for a quadratic and it was a lot of fun If not a bit scary seeing a brand new four by e be cut in half So he could make a two-door gladiator. That was a hybrid electric It’s interesting Greg made that hybrid hybrid electric gladiator a couple of years ago and now Jeep is coming out with one. I was at 2025. I think they’re coming out with one. So yeah, it’s It’s interesting how one man conduct do this and then it becomes a reality from other manufacturer
All right, so that brings us to the end of another exhilarating Jeep talk show I hope you were exhilarated I certainly am the I want to express my deepest gratitude to our incredible panel of Jeep enthusiasts for sharing their valuable insights experiences and expertise with us today I Also want to extend a heartfelt. Thank you to our listeners who joined us on this adventure whether you were on YouTube live Watching us or you joined us in our zoom meeting. Thank you very much for being there and Hopefully you you enjoyed it and you’ll come back as somebody asked in the the the YouTube chat Do we do this every Tuesday? We absolutely do so every week. We have a zoom meeting a roundtable where we have questions that we will ask you to see what you think about the questions that we ask and like I mentioned earlier you can always submit your own questions and Contact us and do a bunch of things just go over to Jeep talk show comm slash contact to find out how there’s a little Hyperlinks and stuff that you can click over there to send emails Send us fill out a form with questions that you think we ought to have on the show so on and so forth So until next time keep those Jeep running strong hit those trails with confidence and remember. It’s not just a vehicle It’s a way of life. It really really is it’s not just a tagline. It really is a way of life This has been Tony hosting the Jeep talk show roundtable episode, and we’ll catch you on the next ride broadcasting since 2010
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