Episode 1016 – Leave No Jeeper Behind!

What Does MOAB Mean to You?

If you were not lucky enough to grow up in an off-roading family you quickly learn about the special places around the US, and the world, that are the must-go destinations for Jeepers.

Easter Jeep Safari in Moab Utah has to be on the top of the list.

Josh, correct me if I’m wrong, but you’ve never been to Moab.  You have been to the Rubicon though.  What do Moab and Easter Jeep Safari mean to you

Leave no Jeeper Behind!

But what if they’re stupid?

We all like the unwritten rule of leaving no Jeeper behind.  I think it goes wider than this, leaving no off-roader behind.  But what if they’re stupid?

Speaking Of Stupid Jeepers

NORTH UNION TOWNSHIP, Pa – WJ driver vandalizes baseball field

Thousands in damage

Jeep Talk Show Gladiator Update

The 2021 Jeep Talk Show Gladiator is fresh back from EJS 2024.  As I mentioned, the Glad was used more for getting to meet people and interviewing people.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel so you’ll be notified when those videos are published.

One trail I did was with the Gone-GPN group.  From Gone-GPN, Greg Henderson, Rick Pewe, Chris Collard, Michael Harrington, Liam Lafferty.  Ria from Roaming Reckless, Chuck from the Jeep Talk Show, and more!

We went to an abandoned Uranium mine.  The trail was easy, but it was still a great adventure.  After visiting the mine, we traveled to our ultimate destination.  Denis Julien Inscription.

It was an interesting bit of history of Moab, and if you look up Denis Julien you’ll find that this wasn’t the only place that Denis “tagged” the environment.  Denis Julien defaced nature long before it was cool and illegal.

Our tail gunner was in a full-size Dodge RAM truck, they popped a tire due to sidewall damage.

Chuck took a chunk out of the driver’s side rear of his Dad’s CJ-5, don’t tell.  So even on a simple trail, you have to understand it may still have its charms!

Oh, and Nick from Murdicon was there in his 700 hp JLU that Greg Henderson had on display in his 2023 SEMA booth.  Beautiful rig and fast, even on the trails.

Must-Have Stuff for Your Jeep!

Motorcraft – Solution-Windshield Washer $3.11 and J-B Weld 8237 PlasticWeld Plastic Repair Epoxy Putty – 2 oz. $9.07

Good to have if you’re driving fast on the trail, and damage your windshield wiper fluid reservoir.  It’s a location joke, you had to be there.

This Jeep Talk Show episode is brought to you by realtruck.com with over 1 million plus parts and accessories for your Jeep truck and life. Stay tuned for more on Real Truck’s latest off-road adventure, “Runnin’ the Rubicon,” available on Motor Trend Plus. Hi, I’m Tony and welcome to the show and we’re going to have fun with Josh today. Yeah, we’re going to try and keep it PG, okay? Hey, I’m Josh. Yeah, remember me? Hey, now Tony’s letting me out of the box for one more episode. All right, Josh, this is something that is specifically tuned for you and every other listener out there that hasn’t never been to Moab or maybe you’ve been to Moab, but you haven’t been there in an off-road vehicle, which I would say that’s just a crying shame. I know some of those people though. I know those, it’s like have you ever been to Moab? Yeah, have you ever been in a Jeep? No. Yeah. So actually, Steve, one of our Jeep Talk Show listeners, regulars, has been to Moab before. He went again this year, but he’s been to Moab before, but it was in a van.

 

It wasn’t an off-road van. So this was the first time he, this past EJS 2024 was the first time he’s been there in his Jeep. And we’re going to get a little more information from him in the future, but I know he really enjoyed being there, as did the 22 other Jeep Talk Show team members and listeners that were there. I know. Nice. Good turnout. I know, including me, that meant there was 23, but I don’t count.

 

And I’m pretty sure that none of them were from Colorado, or I’m Utah rather. Not Utah, but definitely Colorado. There was three or four of them that were from Colorado. Yeah, I had Colorado on the mind. So yeah, the question I have for you tonight and you too, Josh, is what does Moab mean to you? Mother of all bombs. Me too.

 

The Daisy Cutter. So if you were lucky enough to grow up in an off-roading family, you quickly learn about the special places around the US. And world, if you weren’t, then thank goodness for social media and shows like this, you get to learn about Moab and the Rubicon. What other special trails, Josh? I know there’s some in Colorado that you just have to do. Oh, certainly. I mean, there’s the Black Mountain Pass. You’ve got, what is there, Fordyce is one of them. There’s a bunch of world-class wheeling destinations around the US. I would say that Moab and Rubicon are at the top of the list. And there’s probably a distant third because there’s not a whole lot that can hold up to the spectacle and the majesty that is Moab or the Rubicon. Yeah. Now you have, correct me on this, you’ve never been to the Moab, but you have been to the Rubicon. Correct.

 

I’ve flown over Moab. Doesn’t count.

 

That’s not a flyover off-road destination.

 

I was technically off-road.

 

You know, that’s true. You could have applied for multiple honor badges while you flew over.

 

So for you, you’ve been into doing off-roading for some time. Oh, yeah. What would it mean to you to be able to go to Moab? I mean, what do you have in your head that it would be something that you would want to do? It’s on my bucket list. I mean, as was the Rubicon. I mean, and there’s a couple of few other trails that I would like to see. And there’s states, honestly, that I would like to go and get the tires off the pavement in. But ultimately, I mean, those are like the mecca of off-roading. And if you can get to, I mean, even just getting to Moab unto itself is the bucket destination.

 

If you can get to Easter Jeep Safari, I think that’s a whole different experience. I think you’re right. Yeah, because I mean, when you have Easter Jeep Safari, it is every jeeper comes out of the woodwork and descends on the city. And it turns Moab into an absolute just… It’s mind boggling. I mean, because you can’t get around. Everything is full. It takes forever to get anywhere. The trails are going to be backed up and everything. If you want to experience Moab, I would highly suggest going at a different time than Easter Jeep Safari. Well, you know, I’m glad that you mentioned this. I actually spoke with somebody out at Moab or somebody that had recently been there. And I want to tell you that a lot of people, when I ask them if they’re going to the Easter Jeep Safari, they say, no, it’s too crowded. It isn’t. It is not. Really? It is not. I’ve only… So many people. Yeah, exactly.

 

I think it is. And maybe it has been that way in the past. But I often wonder if maybe they’re going with the Red Rock Four Wheelers on the rides and stuff that they do, because that potentially could be very crowded. And I think this is something that people don’t realize. You don’t have to go there with that group. You can go on your own. They will have trails closed for the Red Rock Four Wheelers, but it is not busy. Now, this year, I’ve only been twice. Last year I did not consider it busy. There was more Jeeps on the main drag there in Moab going up and down the main drag than there was this year. Interesting. So I want to make sure that people understand because you do… You’ve heard exactly what I’ve heard from so many people, but it’s not what I’ve experienced. It was not bad at all. Do you think that COVID had anything to do with it? Because if you remember right, during the pandemic, quote unquote, the Easter Jeep Safari was canceled for one or two years. I know it was one, because I remember Tammy went to it one year when it was canceled and they made them leave. They were in the middle of nowhere with nobody around and they made them leave. You got a mask on? For what? What is Dusty? There’s your mask.

 

But no, I’m really glad you brought that up because that is not what I have found.

 

Yeah, I think it’s one of those things to where, you know, it may depend on the weather. You know, I don’t know. I think once you do Easter Jeep Safari once, you probably don’t have to do it again. I don’t know. It’s one of those, like I said, one of those bucket list sort of things. You’ve obviously been more than once. No, I think you should go every damn year, Josh. I think that once you go… But isn’t everything more expensive then? You know, because it’s more or less the event that you’re paying for. The hotels are probably going to be marked up more. You know, the restaurants may go ahead and add a zero to the menu prices. You know, I don’t know. I’m not saying that that’s what’s going on. It’s not just price gouging or anything like that, but supply and demand. I think fuel prices were up, but I don’t know if that wasn’t nationwide just having to do with Easter and travel.

 

And also too, it’s a lot cheaper down here in the south where the refineries are than what it is up there. But I did see a big jump in price as we got closer to Easter. And I think it might have had to do with that. So I’ll tell you, the hotel I got, which wasn’t a super nice hotel, it was nice. It was next to a nice hotel. Well, all you need is some place to lay your head. The room was fine. It was $119 a night. Wow. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I don’t think that’s ultimately all that bad. I mean, you think, you know, I mean, and that’s with taxes and fees and everything. That’s pretty good. Well, I don’t know. Whatever it was, whatever they show you on the side, I’d have to go back and look and see what the final charge was. But you know, that’s $35 for that towel, Tony. Yeah.

 

Oh, by the way, my wife went with me and she brought towels and pillows and we checked for bed bugs when we first got there. So so it’s nice to have a woman like that that’s a concern. But I, you know, I didn’t care about taking all that. I mean, you got to carry all that stuff in. You got to carry it all back out. And when I travel for like for work and stuff, I don’t do all that stuff. Yeah.

 

So anyway, not crowded two years. Absolutely not crowded. And and also, too, I’m mentioning this because I really like having Jeep talk show people there. And we had so many people. I mean, I think we had seven or eight, maybe 10 last year. And we doubled that this year. And I’d love to go out there and just have a huge group. And again, it’s not really anything for my edification or my pleasure. It is very pleasant. But I like being able to meet the Jeep talk show listeners and the team members. And also, too, we all do things together. And actually, we broke up into several groups and there was people going off and doing trails. Some of them were going with Julianne. She had many she did several runs this year. And so it was just it was just fun being out there with a bunch of Jeep talk show people. Well, I think anytime you get together and get some trail time with fellow Jeepers, it’s a good day. And then you add something like the majesty of Moab into it. And it just takes it to the next level.

 

So I guess what it means to me is and then you’ve been to events before that were non-wheeling events and all kinds of and I don’t think that I don’t think that I mean, nothing against those events that are just walk around and talk to people and talk to vendors. But I don’t know that I want necessarily to go to those after going to Moab and that that Easter Jeep Safari because I get to use my Jeep to go off road and I get to talk to this now Easter Jeep Safari. They’ve got the vendors row. They’ve got all of that stuff there where you get to see the latest and greatest. All the stuff is on display. You get to poke and feel and touch and all that kind of stuff. Does that intrigue you at all? I like being able to meet people that I’ve done interviews with. I’m probably not going to be buying anything out there. I was last year, I was talking to Steve at the Power Tank booth and he had some wonderful deals. So if you’re going to go to Easter Jeep Safari and you want to save some money at one of these vendor events, that’s a pretty good reason to go. There’s an oxymoron going to Easter Jeep Safari and saving money. To save money. It’s like jumbo shrimp. Yeah. But no, I actually was in the Tyree booth last year and it got me for a day. I was supposed to be there Thursday and Friday and I apologize to Ken because Friday was going to be my last wheeling day and I wanted to get back out on the trail. Oh yeah. I mean, who could blame you? Yeah. So he absolutely understood. So this is kind of the thing about the vendor event. Do you really want to spend Thursday and Friday going around talking to vendors? I mean, how many things are you going to buy? Two days to go and pop by every booth. Would it take you that long? No. I wouldn’t expect you to do it in the afternoon. Yeah. Last year there was supposed to be two vendor spots. I only went to the same one I went this year, which is Old Spanish Trail, whatever the area is. And it was super, super windy. So it really wasn’t even good for doing interviews, which was my main focus this year was to go out there and meet and talk to people about Jeep Talk Show and meet those vendors. Just do press the flash, so to speak. This isn’t only fans, but I’m talking about where you did shake somebody’s hand and stuff and talk to them. I got to meet Patrick from Bavarian, the German based company we recently did an interview with. Yeah. And oh, by the way, Josh, I’ve mentioned this before on the show. I haven’t told you. So I got to meet Patrick and he has several Hemi powered Jeeps. And one of the Hemi powered Jeeps is the, and I keep messing this up, the not the elephant, the hell of hell of it. Yes. The hell of it. He has a hell of a in a gladiator. Oh my God. So stop. I can only get so right. Exactly. So I asked him, I said, Patrick, so you guys got the Audubon. Do you ever take the, the gladiator out on the other one? Sure. Sure. I do. I said, how fast are you going? He says 150 kilometers per hour. And I don’t know. I said, I don’t know what that is. I don’t know. Yeah, really. So it’s, it’s over a hundred. I know. Uh, but I said, so 93. Oh, is it? Yeah. Under a hundred. Oh, see, I hate that. You’ve had your Jeep over a hundred, haven’t you? A hundred and eight. I think is what I had. My cloud eater. You beat him. You’ve got half the horsepower. We’re a third of the horsepower. Yeah, sure. So anyway, I thought that was really cool and I got to meet him. Oh, do you remember Rubicon express?

 

Of course. I got to meet the owner.

 

Outstanding. He’s since sold, but he works for a Bavarian now. He works with Patrick on the US side of things. Yeah. So we may be doing it, maybe doing an interview with him. I don’t have his card in front of me, but it was like, we’re going to express. You got to be kidding me. So we had a really good time talking about XJs and TJs and the whole era of Rubicon express. Yeah. So I said, I told him I said Rubicon express was, yeah, I said Rubicon express. I mean, that was, that was the, that was the product. That was the go to brand. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. You didn’t have Rubicon express. You were, you were just asking for breakage. All right. Well, I’m gonna ask this question again, not that you haven’t answered it, but this is kind of a wrap it up. What does Moab mean to you, Josh?

 

You know, I, we can go on and on and on Moab for me is, is the place to go. I got to get there for me. It’s just, it’s a destination. It’s an experience and it’s twofold for me. I do want to experience Eastern Jeep Safari, but I also want to experience Moab without EJS. So I think that’s a good idea.

 

And actually I remember, I don’t know, I spoke to him longer this year, but Todd with trails off road plus lives in Colorado and he told me, Hey, anytime you want to go off road, Colorado or Moab, just let me know. He’s about an hour and a half from Moab. So we got the guy that does the trails off road software.

 

That’s one of his sponsors. Where in Colorado is 90 minutes from Moab? And that’s where I’m going to retire. I told him, is he a poor bastard? You know, cause I want to, I want to wheel in Colorado too. Cause Colorado is beautiful. Uh, and, uh, but anyway, so, uh, we have an opening invitation. Uh, and when I say we, I mean, uh, me, but I’m sure I can bring a friend so we could just go to Moab anytime and have a, uh, a trail guide that does trails off road. .com. Outstanding. Todd’s a great guy. There you go. You throw that in there. Well, he’s a sponsor for the show too. Uh, so it’s, it’s great. Uh, but anyway, got to get to talk to Todd. Oh, and I got to mention this really quick. So I’m sitting there and Moab diner, uh, which for me is the place to go to have breakfast. Yeah. And, uh, uh, Todd met meets me there because we’re going to go do an interview, uh, in the, in the gladiator, got the GoPro set up in it and everything. And he comes and he sits down. He’s of course, he’s got a trails off road shirt on. And uh, so I’m, I’m introducing him to the other Jeep talk show people that are taking up the two tables there at Moab diner. And I say, Hey, this is Todd and they’re shaking his hands kind of like, Oh, hello. You know, like you do with any person you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re cordial and you’re nice and stuff. And then I say, uh, uh, he’s, uh, he owns, he runs trails off road.com and then you see their highs get really big. Everybody’s falling out of their chair. Oh, really? Okay.

 

Their eyes get really big and they’re shaking his hand more vigorously. And it’s like, cause they know this product, they use this product. They, they’re getting to meet somebody, uh, the product that they use that, and they trust to get from place to place off road, not, not just a Moab, but everywhere. And so it was like, it was really cool. It made me feel very proud that we have this show here that allows listeners and team members and stuff to get introduced to these people, the movers and shakers in the off-road industry. It was really, really, really cool.

 

All right. So on tonight’s episode and our news stories leave no jeeper behind. It’s a very honorable thing, a very honorable thing that we say, but what happens if they’re stupid? Is there a loophole?

 

Can you get out of that? I think there’s a clause in there in the, in the, in the, in the pro code for that. Yeah.

 

In our Jeep gladiator update trail adventure with gone Jeepin. And of course they don’t, they do Jeep and GP. And if you guys don’t know about gone GP and gone Jeepin, you need to check them out there on YouTube. They’re all over places. They got a website. So they’re definitely dodged the legal bullet. We’re on borrowed time. So we’re going to play in our must have stuff for your Jeep. I know you’ll be confused, but there’s a story behind it that we’re not going to share windshield wiper reservoir damage on the trail. Well, we have a solution. Very good. Are you ready? Time for the Jeep talk show with host Tony, Josh, Wendy, and Chuck.

 

Hey, are you new to the Jeep talk show? Well, welcome. You may be asking who is this Josh guy and why does he fit in so well into the show? Well, Josh, you recently had to leave the show, but you’ve been here for, for what a couple, two, three, was it four years? I can’t remember. How dare you. It’s been over a decade, man. Tony and I go way back, clear back to when the Jeep talk show wasn’t even around and it was called something else. And we’ve also done a couple other podcasts. So he and I have a lot of chemistry and Mike experience with each other. So Tony and I, good old friends. Can I tell you something that’s going to irritate the hell out of you?

 

Sure. So don’t consider me your friend. I dropped this name. There’s two names that I’ll drop any time I find a, there’s some way I can shoehorn it in. Some you hold a shovel into. Sure. So I recently interviewed Stacey David. You know Stacey David, right? I mean, of course I know Stacey. I told you I’m a huge fan. Yes.

 

So not only part of that interview, but it just wasn’t in the car. So not only. Oh, and I was going to mention the hello from Josh, but he got busy talking. It would have just been rude for me to interrupt. So I didn’t get to say that in the interview. I’m sure, I’m sure you listened to that and go, that son of a bitch didn’t mention my name. I asked him to not one that you talk about dropping names. You perfect opportunity. No, I couldn’t do it. So anyway, when I was interviewing Stacey David, I found out that he wanted to interview me for his podcast, which he did. And I don’t know why I looked. I just, I saw something the other day about somebody else, some person I looked up that’s on a show that I was watching on TV or something. And they had them listed in the credits for IMDB as being on a podcast. And I went, holy shit is IMDB keep keeping up with podcasts. Now is the Jeep talk show on IMDB. You know what IMDB is, right? Well, we’re going to have to be now. Yeah. The internet movie database. Yes. So I use it a lot. I love looking at people and trying to remember where I saw that face before and so on and so forth. So anyway, I went to have a look to see if, uh, if I, my partner, my name, Tony McCroy was actually on IMDB and it is, and it’s because Stacey David’s podcast is on IMDB. Well, how about that?

 

My name and Jeep talk show is now in the internet movie database. Well, you’re basically a celebrity, Tony. How about it? I’m celebrity adjacent. This is the same thing.

 

But that was, it was, and I told you and I’ve mentioned everybody else, Stacey David, what a great guest. What a great guy. He just, he’s like the everyday guy. Yeah. Off-roader builder. Uh, he’s been around for, for years. Everybody knows him. He does great work. Uh, but he, uh, he’s living the dream. Yeah. Well, I’m sure there’s a lot to that, uh, a lot of negatives to do. It’s just, uh, but yeah, so, but anyway, uh, the internet movie database, I’m on there and Jeep talk shows on there and, uh, who knows maybe you.

 

All right. So I wanted to ask you guys leave no Jeep or behind, but what if they’re stupid? What if,

 

I’ve got some stories, you’ve got some stories. I think everybody listening has seen a person or two that would, uh, fit into that umbrella, fit under that umbrella. So I’ll tell you something really quick. You didn’t get to go to the last Jeep talk show, uh, off-road Texas event at hidden falls. Uh, but, uh, and I wasn’t right there when this happened, but I heard about it on the radio and heard about a lot of, a lot of it later, there was a, uh, Toyota pickup that joined in with the Jeep talk show group and they were helping him and they were complaining on the radio by trying to help him and they were complaining because they were saying, I don’t think it’s a four wheel drive.

 

Oh no. He only has one tire spinning.

 

And, uh, they, the people with the Jeep talk show team, uh, was trying to help the guy and I think that eventually he turned away, maybe he was circling around and they took the opportunity to get the hell out of there.

 

He really shouldn’t have been where we were going. No, probably not. I mean, any wheel drive, I mean, I suppose there was, there was an XJ that I used to wheel with and the guy was so proud of himself because he could hit 90% of the trails that everybody else was in, in too low. He had a teraflex too low kit and he had a, and a locker in the rear and with too low and a locked up rear end, he pretty much pushed himself up and over everything and was quite proud of it. And so if you got the traction, you got the wheel skills, you can pull it off. But if you got the one wheelie peely, probably not. So he had the solid axle, but no, nothing attached to it. It wasn’t a two wheel drive. Progress. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So well, kudos to him for getting out there and actually doing it. Well, yeah. I mean, trying at least, but yeah, you’re going to have to, uh, you’re going to have to get left behind. So the, the unwritten rule, and I don’t think this is written anywhere, uh, of leaving no jeep or behind, and I think he goes wider than this, uh, leaving no off rotor behind, but how far? Yeah. Well, well, that’s what I say. Even off rotor, because you know, you don’t leave Toyotas, you don’t leave, uh, Broncos, you don’t leave anybody that’s stranded that needs help. You don’t leave them. I mean, I, especially if it’s a Bronco and you have, uh, the ability to pull them out and get somebody to take a picture of it. Uh, so, but at what point do you say, well, I’m sorry, dude, you’re, you’re going, you’re on your own. I mean, I would think that there’s a limit to what you could do, uh, for the individual short of buying them a Jeep. And put it together. There was one time, uh, wheeling season up here in the Pacific Northwest really doesn’t open up until about May. And even then you probably still have some snow on the ground in some places.

 

The, the ground is still quite soft in the early season wheeling. And, um, even though, you know, most of the larger trail systems are open year round. Um, they do close some things off when you’re out here wheeling in, in the Pacific Northwest mud and a lot of the stuff out here in, in my neck of the woods is what I call snotty peanut butter. If you were to mix your worst cold and a jar of JIF together, um, and pour it over rocks, that’s kind of what you get here. Uh, it’s this clay like substance that just is the antithesis to, uh, traction of any kind whatsoever. And when you get pretty much buried up to your axles in it, um, and beyond, it’s almost impossible to pull you out. Um, and so if you get into one of these situations where you just keep burying the skinny pedal and you just keep pushing your vehicle further and further into the snotty peanut butter at a certain point, you’re going to become one with the earth and I’m sorry, there’s not enough Jeeps. There’s not enough winches. There’s not enough bubba ropes to pull you out of this stuff. It’s pretty much you’ve got to let it dry. Come back and dig yourself out.

 

We’ve had to leave people behind because they’ve been stupid. They’ve gone off trail. They thought that they could, you know, I’m going to go do the stuff that I see on TV and the mud bogs and they, and all of a sudden they’re up to their, their floorboards and mud, and that’s where the Jeep is going to live for the next three months. Um, I mean, yeah, you get a tractor up there, you get a, you know, an actual, you know, wrecker up there that’s got, you know, tons and tons of pulling power. You might be able to get something up there that has the tonnage and the pulling power to yank you up out of that mud. But if you’re stupid enough to get you into a situation like that. And the group that you’re with just, I’m sorry, is incapable of pulling you out. You’re going to get left over. Your vehicle is most likely going to clarify that. I mean, you still reach out and say, Hey, I can take you wherever and make a phone call home. I can get you down to a pay phone. I can get you to the gas station, but your vehicle unfortunately is going to remain there. And it may be, it may be in such a, not only say disrepair, but it could be broke so poorly or so badly. They need to go collect parts and come back. Uh, and, uh, it’s not something that you’re going to be, and you’re not going to be spending a week or days, uh, making sure that that person is, is getting recovered. So, uh, I, I think that everybody, especially those people that really spend the time to try and help somebody get unstuck or, or back off the mountain or the road or whatever, you know, God bless you. But I think there has to be a limit. And I think that limit is, uh, based on, uh, the, the individual. And I don’t really mean about stupid, but do they have tools? Do they have a trail spares? Do they have items that they need, uh, going out there? And if they don’t, that’s fine, but it’s not your responsibility to get those things or go get them and bring them back and so on and so forth. You know, you don’t want to leave somebody out there, especially in a bad weather or especially cold weather, you know, at that point, you almost pretty much look, you know, the Jeep can be replaced, but your two kids and the wife in the front seat who are freezing to death right now. Um, they need to go. If you want to stay with your Jeep all night and freeze to death, that’s fine. That’s up to you, but we’re going to get the family down to safety.

 

So I would say it’s probably a little unfair to say, you know, unless they’re stupid, uh, because, uh, I mean, we all do stupid things from time to time, but it does give a lot of a dramatic effect by, uh, say, can you leave them behind when they’re stupid, um, people do. What if they’re drunk? I still think they need, I still think they need, uh, help. I know. Maybe you could drive them to an AA meeting.

 

Exactly.

 

Um, but well, that brings up a good point as far as if people out there are, are drinking and, uh, driving off road and they, they mess up their vehicle. You still can’t leave them out there. Um, I did so hard though. Cause it’s like, well, jackass, if you weren’t three sheets to the wind, you probably wouldn’t be in this situation. Exactly.

 

I know you got it. You got to, there’s only so much Darwinism. You can just let play out. Yeah. And also too, we got to keep in mind that just something that we think is stupid, uh, may not be stupid to somebody else. We may have a very definite way of thinking about how things should be. And then we find out, well, you know, it just, it really depends on the individual. So would you say that there are those times where you, you, you have that rule of leave no one behind, but sometimes you have to, I mean, especially if they want, uh, they won’t go with you. I mean, what do you do? Right? Yeah. I mean, it’s not like, you know, you can take the keys from the drunk person kind of, you know, I mean, you can, but you can’t, you know, type of thing at a certain point, you can’t force somebody into the vehicle, um, and take them away. You know, that’s, that’s borderline kidnapping. I think by definition.

 

So would you think that you can say somebody is drunk. Uh, would you think that it would be appropriate to get their driver’s license, maybe take a picture of it, maybe, maybe, maybe initially ask for their name and somebody that they could call to let them know that they were out there, uh, you know, you would, you would have to, and even then, I mean, yeah.

 

The thing is, is that, you know, can you, I guess you have to, you have to trust that they’re giving you valid information. You call the phone number. Hey, do you know so-and-so I’ve never heard of that person in my life. I said, well, okay, wrong. No, but I guess I tried.

 

I mean, you know, you can only help people so far. So, and I think that’s really what I mean by this leave no jeepers behind. But what if they’re stupid? Uh, there’s, there’s a limited amount of what you can do. You can try to help. Uh, it was like, uh, the guys were trying to help that Toyota, but, uh, hopefully he just turned around and decided that his one wheel drive, uh, Toyota wasn’t going to be able to cut it. Uh, Toyota, you shouldn’t have been up here playing with the big boys.

 

So yeah, it’s a good thing. Leave no jeepers behind. Uh, but, uh, there are always situations. Just do your best. Always exceptions. Yeah. There’s always exceptions. Do your best. Try to do the best you can for the individual, uh, with limitations. And I’m going to mention this. I have a picture in the show notes for this episode, episode one, uh, zero one six, I’m still not used to four digits Josh. Uh, and it’s, it’s actually Greg Henderson from unofficial use only looking for petrified wood. And it’s just, he’s, he’s off road. He’s by himself. So that’s the reason I use the picture. I don’t think Greg’s stupid. Okay. Okay. I was going to say, cause I know that guy’s got some smart. Yeah, he does. Speaking of stupid jeepers, Tony, this guy, I think is going to have to take the cake. Um, there’s, we, we threatened or teased in the, in the past about coming up with an award for these sorts of, uh, stunts, if you will. Well, you said Darwin, I need a Darwin jeepers type saying a thing with a monkey.

 

Exactly.

 

There we go. Uh, well, this happened out in North union township in Pennsylvania. And, um, look, we’ve all been young, dumb and full of stupidity. Um, but this one I think is, is kind of goes beyond that. This person decided to take their grand Cherokee out into the middle of a baseball field and just destroy it. Look, we’re rolling into the beginning of baseball season. And I’m like, I’m, I’m no baseball fan by any stretch of the imagination. I like sports as much as the next person. Um, but I’m not a huge baseball fan. That being said, I would never take my Jeep out into a baseball field and do donuts, creating ruts over a foot deep throughout the entire playing surface. According to the manager of the field, uh, they say that it’s literally thousands and thousands of dollars in damage. They have no idea how long it’s going to take to repair. Cause pretty much everything’s going to have to get dug up, re flattened and re sought it or seated or whatever. Um, but, uh, yeah, they are still looking for the person. I guess they got their Jeep stuck out in the field, obviously, uh, you know, got it mudded up pretty good and, uh, couldn’t get it out. So, um, they’re tracking the person down obviously through, um, uh, you know, registration and stuff like that. Yeah. And I guess they’re, they’re, uh, the manager of the field is, is asking authorities to throw the book at them and they want, you know, felony vandalism charges pressed now, whether it comes up to that level, I don’t, I don’t know. Um, there’s probably a dollar figure associated with, you know, class one, class two, class three misdemeanors before you step into felony and that kind of stuff, whether there is felony vandalism charges in, in Pennsylvania. I don’t know. I’ll just remind people, you gotta be really careful. Cause if you guys recall, uh, somebody keyed the gladiator, uh, people have seen it said gouged, but, uh, the, the damages were over $2,500 of damage. And it’s just, it’s just a keyed type of situation. And in Texas, 2,500 plus is a felony. And there is a warrant out for this gentleman’s arrest and they, we know who he is and then we know where he lives. But so fun is fun, but you need to think about it because this could impact your ability to have a job, a good job and freedom.

 

Now, if this is a minor, somebody 17, 16 years old, just got their license, parents bottom of Jeep or something, you know, whatever, maybe it was, uh, you know, the parents old Jeep or grandma’s Jeep, you know, whatever, who knows. Um, you know, that’s still going to be a serious penalty for, for a minor. Yeah. Something tells me this is a young person. I mean, just coming out on a limb here, wild ass guess. This is probably somebody who is in their teens, possibly early twenties. And, uh, was there intoxication involved? Who knows? You know, but nonetheless, you know, peer pressure, who knows, but here we are. Um, you know, baseball season’s right around the corner. This field is going to be opening up in weeks, if not, um, you know, probably in weeks rather, uh, and now it can’t because it’s just utterly destroyed. Even as you get rid of the ruts, you’re still going to have those areas where it’s, it’s going to be mud instead of grass. And looking at the picture that you have here in the show notes for episode one, zero one six, you’ve talked show.com. Those are some deep ass ruts. I mean, I can’t believe they were able to get through that stuff. That is, that is some muddy stuff. This looks like a relatively stock WJ grand Cherokee. And that’s the other mistake they made. Maybe some fender flares on there. I don’t think so. Uh, looks to be possibly some borderline all terrain tires. Um, they’re definitely not like BFG AT’s, uh, they’re borderline highway tires. Let’s put it like that. There may be all season tires. Here we go. Yeah. This is, this is a rookie situation. You get these, these tires a lot bigger, a lot more knobbies so they don’t get stuck next time. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, this person’s probably going to be going to jail more than likely. Yeah. They’re probably a laying low for a little while, but yeah, if you want to see the picture of the damage, uh, we got that up in the show notes, uh, Jeep talk show.com. Look for episode one zero one six or one thousand 16. Uh, check it out and you can see just how bad this baseball field got torn up. That’s a, speaking of stupid Jeepers, Tony, I look, I, I didn’t really want to interject this into the show, but I, since I went ahead and threw a picture of it up on our discord server, I went ahead and I figured I’d have to go ahead and spend at least 30 seconds talking about this. I saw this abomination in traffic the other day and I couldn’t believe what it was that I was actually seeing because I didn’t know that they made these for that. What I’m talking about is the grumper bumper or the grumper front end, um, for a Jeep renegade. Is this like the grumpy cat?

 

It’s worse, Tony. It’s worse. You know, angry headlights, the, the, you know, jowl like a grill front end, it completely destroys what, you know, the, the iconic Jeep front end round headlights, seven slotted grill, you know, whatever, um, this takes all that away. And as if the renegade wasn’t, you know, Jeep enough into itself, um, they went ahead and made a grumper for it. And, and I, I, I just can’t, I’m sorry. I can’t, it’s hideous. Each to their own though. Right. I mean, uh, I suppose it doesn’t belong with this. Keep you like, it looked like somebody put a bunch of modeling clay on the front of their Jeep and just went at it with, you know, Edward Scissor’s hands. Let me ask you this based on our previous story. If this, would you consider not the lending hand to, uh, if this deeper was stuck off road, would you consider this big, on the trail? I mean, are you all right? Okay. Bye.

 

Of course I would stop. I won’t let you let you sit.

 

You need a Snickers. Here you go. Uh, no, it was one of those things. They had obviously spent a fair amount of money on their renegade. Um, it had virtually every bolt on modification that I think is available. God bless them out there. They’re trying, they were trying, they had the green halo headlights going and everything. I, you know, bless them. But, uh, you know, like you said, Tony, to each their own, but I, I just couldn’t, I, I, I wanted to drive up. I wanted to follow them, pull up, no, but you can just be like, why? Seriously, just, just why? There’s somebody giving away a really well-built, I think it’s a gladiator. If not, it’s a four door, a GLU and they’ve got the 22 inch rims. And I mean, it looks wonderful with the exception of the 22 inch rims and the half inch attire. There’s only 22 inch rims. That was, that was something I was going to call into the show and ask about, cause I’ve been seeing it a lot more out here in the Portland Metro area lately. Maybe it’s, it’s something that is going around nationwide, but I’m seeing a lot more. Yes, it’s going around much like the herpes virus. Uh, so it makes you scratch. We talked about it a couple of years ago with the Carolina squat. You remember that? Which is now, which is that illegal in Carolina.

 

So it kind of, you know, with that aspect to it, I’m not seeing the Carolina squat out here, but I’m seeing the 22 and the 24 inch rims. I’m seeing the 50 series tires. Now they’re doing everything else that all the off-roaders are doing. Yeah.

 

But you’re making it impossible to take the Jeep off road. Well, that was a very nice built, uh, gladiator or JLU, uh, and with those, but with those wheels and, uh, and $50,000 cash. So you got money, you got money to pay, you know, for the taxes and everything. And, uh, and for some real wheels and tires. And then I was thinking how much can I get for those wheels and tires?

 

Cause that would be going in the trash ASAP. And you got to write on the marketplace. Yeah. I mean, they do this bill and you got to wonder if they require you a certain time before you start. I mean, cause I can see some people just parting it out.

 

And then if, if you have to drive it for a year, like that, you know, like two years, 500 days or something. So what do you do? Do you just park it in a garage, find a cave? Like doc Brown, I’ve made this reference a lot lately, but put the DeLorean in a cave until the time runs out. I couldn’t drive around like that. I just, so there’s, there’s a guy in my neighborhood and I think he’s retired. Um, he’s since debadged his truck, but I’m fairly certain that he used to work for Kenwood, Kenwood, the audio company. I think they also make radios and stuff like that. Yeah. So, um, he had, what I thought was a like a show truck, if you will, had all the, the, um, big emblems and, and, you know, um, like a wrap on it all almost. Um, and, uh, he, it never, as far as I know, had any fancy wheels or tires on it, but tinted windows, I’m sure it has a system in it. Um, Tonneau cover, you know, all locked up, can’t see inside that kind of thing. Um, but since he has completely taken off all of the Kenwood stuff to it, but you know, it’s one of those things where, you know, it, it’s an older truck. It was like an Oh one and Oh two, Oh three. It was right before they changed to the next generation. Um, and, uh, you know, it looked out of place. It looked out of date because it was 22, 23, 24 years old.

 

And so it’s one of those things to where, okay, you, you win this Jeep, but then you can’t do anything with, you can’t sell it for 10 years. You can’t part it out or anything. And by 10 years from now rolls around, that’s going to look like, well, that’s so out of date. You know, that’s, I don’t know, wait another 10 years. And it’s a classic yesterday. That’s like so yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don’t know. Uh, I, I, I, I didn’t, I didn’t comment on it because these people are doing a nice thing. I mean, I know it’s helping them out too for promotion and stuff, but, uh, I, I just hate to see that, especially when like you say, you see all the good modifications and then they do something that’s silly, uh, that, uh, and, and if any of you guys are going out there, who are you to say it’s silly? It is logical because we like taking Jeeps off road. And even, even if we didn’t, I liked the idea of having a Jeep that’s capable of going off road, uh, and, and maybe even on road when things get tough, I’ve mentioned to you this, this to you before hurricanes, uh, um, uh, earthquakes in California, especially earthquakes and anywhere, because earthquakes can really mess up the road. And you happening lately too. Yeah, exactly. And now you’re, you’re trying to get traction on these rubber bands. Um, you know, not everywhere is the 80 grit sandpaper of Moab. I just never understood the, the thought process of I’m going to spend $2,500 on this off-road suspension system and then put street tires on the Jeep. Yep.

 

Exactly. Okay. So Josh, I recently went to realtruck.com slash blog website and I looked at real truck presents running the Rubicon on the train. Yes, we were. So Tiffany stone and Ian Johnson hit the Rubicon trail. The pictures are amazing. And this is from someone that just got back from Moab. Well, it’s not like he’s a stranger to Moab. I mean, Ian’s probably been there, I don’t know, more times than I’ve put shoes on.

 

Well, yeah. So, uh, anyway Tiff and Ian had a collection of Wranglers and at least one gladiator. Uh, and of course one of those Jeeps was red. It has to be, you can’t go anywhere without a red Jeep. Speaking of that red Jeep there, there was a couple of picks in that slideshow that they had there and I’m going to back Tony up a hundred percent. Awesome off-roading picks. Yes. But there was one, a set of picks in there. Um, do you remember when the jail you first came out and there was that controversial commercial because they drove the Jeep through the stream? Oh my God. It was a stream they made.

 

So I’m seeing this time. See, there’s, there’s a spot where that Jeep is, is doing a pretty good, uh, water crossing in and a great, great, um, uh, shutter settings on that, on that picture and whatnot. It looks like it, that picture was taken for a product placement type of thing. I don’t know. It was really, really well done. Um, but that reminded me of that, that it was, you know, that red Jeep it’s in the water going over and I was just like, how many people are going to come out of the woodwork and just wind bitch, moan and complain that this Jeep was going through the water.

 

Yeah. I don’t know about you, but I can tell the difference between regular water and bruised water. Bruised water just doesn’t, it makes me feel, it makes me weep inside. And I’m weeping with bruised water now. You better go to your safe space.

 

So not only do you get a day by day coverage of this event, you get a list of modifications to each of the Jeeps, which I think is very important because that way you can know how to modify your Jeep and realtruck.com has a lot of those products available right there on their website. You know, there’s even a teaser video of Tiffany and Ian on the Rubicon. Uh, let’s see if Ian’s hair got messed up. He’s got so much.

 

Actually, he’s got in there. I swear he’s, he puts 90 weight up in that hair. Oh boy. It’s a, it’s, it’s pokey. So check out, uh, check this out at realtruck.com size blog and just look for a real truck presents running the Rubicon or click in the link and the show notes for this episode of the Jeep talk show episode one zero one six at Jeep talk show. dot com.

 

So Tony, what’s been going on lately with the gladiator? I, uh, I’ve been a little bit off of Instagram and, and I’ve only been doing sniper hits in discord lately, just popping in to do a quick random post here and there. I’m so proud of you actually doing the social media. That’s uh, you’re jumping, you’re jumping into the 20th century here. This is crying a little bit. So the 2021 Jeep talk show gladiator is freshly back from EJS 2024. And as I, and as I mentioned, hell no, as I mentioned the clad was used more for getting to meet people, getting there to meet the people and interview people. So subscribe to our YouTube channel so you can be notified of those videos when they’re published. Now, one trail I did was with gone jeeping. We mentioned this at the top of the show. It’s gone dash GPN because they’re, they’re scared. Uh, they won’t say jeeping with the J. So from gone jeeping, Greg Henderson, Rick payway, Chris Collard, Michael Harrington, Liam Lafferty, uh, and Ria. Now this is what I want you to look up, Josh. This is really cool. Ria from roaming reckless.

 

She is living in a, uh, a land Rover, I believe it was a defender and uh, she was actually out there on the trails with us. Uh, they, she actually met up with the gone jeeping group last year and they made it a point to have her come to EGS again this year. So, uh, the, yeah, so check her out. She’s on YouTube, roaming reckless. And of course, Chuck from the Jeep talk show was there as well. Now Chuck was in his dad’s CJ five. It was, it was like looking, watching a monkey drive a clown car. Cause I think that Chuck at six foot three could just reach out to the sides and paddleboard that thing if he wanted to.

 

So we went to an abandoned uranium mine. Uh, and I made the joke. This is a bad week to stop wearing my lead underwear. Uh, the trail was easy, but it was still a great adventure. After visiting, visiting the mine, we traveled to our ultimate destination, uh, where there was a Dennis Julian and help me out on these pronunciations, I’m sorry, pronunciations, uh, inscription. So there was literally this guy in 1836, uh, traveled to this area of Moab and was, and basically D faced the rock with his name, date, a few of the things. And you can see it was 94 and he had a gas powered generator with a pressure washer and a small tank. That’s done with a zero degree. Look at this. No, I’m kidding. I have no idea. I mean, look at this. This is really nice. I mean, can you imagine? It’s like what, like a caveman type stuff, you know? Yeah. But I mean, uh, he actually put a little line through the, the J and Julian. And, uh, there’s like a, I don’t know, some sort of big eyeball with a hairy lashes on there and stuff. But I mean, this is very visible from the ground and this is well up on the side of this, uh, this, this cliff area and, uh, Liam and Greg both had to climb up there by the way. So there was like watching mountain goats go up the side of these, uh, boulders and stuff. Uh, but, uh, that’s an actual picture that I took while we were there. This was our, our, our main destination. It was a very historical site and we got there and then once we were there, we had lunch and then we had to turn around and go back. Now, this was an interesting bit of Moab history. And if you look up a Dennis Julian, you will find that this wasn’t the only place that Dennis tagged the environment. Dennis Julian defacing nature long before it was cool than illegal is what I say.

 

So it was this guy going around. I mean, he’s not using spray paint. He’s using the chisel or something. And it’s very, very nicely done. I mean, as you see some of the things that, uh, kids are tagging, uh, things with fake spray paint are very nicely done, but it’s still defacing the, the, the things that we see. So anyway, I guess if it was done long enough ago and the historical significance makes it okay. So I did want to mention this though, that even on the easy trail, you can have issues. So our tail gunner was in a full size Dodge Ram truck. They popped a tire due to sidewall damage. Oh, geez. This is a trail that the gone jeeping group said, I told Chuck anyway, it’s the, you’ll never get out of two wheel drive. It’s a really easy trail. That doesn’t mean you, you won’t have problems. So that doesn’t mean there aren’t trail hazards. Right. And there were a couple of rocks that were sticking out that you had to be, there was an arrow trail and it was a drop off on the other side and you needed to be careful going by these sharp rocks that were in the trail. So, uh, the thing that gets me is, uh, Chuck was in that little skinny, uh, CJ five and I was in the wider gladiator with the, uh, Rubicon axles. So that means they were a half inch wider on either side and I managed to miss them and I could even hang out on my G either side. Probably had another six inches of track on, on all y’all. So, so anyway, uh, once we got out, uh, I noticed I was looking at my sidewalls to see if I had clipped anything and I didn’t, but I did notice that there was a flap on Chuck’s rear, uh, driver’s tire. So, we’ll rubber cement and take care of that. Yeah. That’s what they did while I headed back to, uh, to my, Oh really? Yeah. Oh, he was looking for some. Uh, we had a pretty, pretty sizable group there too. I forget the gentleman’s name, uh, but we also had the former, uh, owner of poison spider out there with us. Oh wow. Yeah. It was really cool. It’s really cool to meet these people. Uh, and I apologize for the names. I’m horrible on names and strangely enough, if you’re a pretty girl, I remember getting better. I don’t know why that is. This is a freaky freaky thing about my memory.

 

So it did. So it did take a Chuck out of, uh, of Chuck’s tire and, uh, oh, I’m sorry. It’s actually his dad’s CJ five. So don’t tell Chuck, Chuck’s dad that he screwed up the Jeep. Oh,

 

I got to mention this Nick from a murder con. I think that’s right. Murder con, uh, was there in his 700 horsepower JLU that Greg Henderson had on display at his 2023 SEMA booth booth. Yeah. That’s a, that’s a smoke and hot. And it’s tuned down. You know, Greg’s letting him get used to the 700 before he turns it up to 1200. It is a, Oh yeah. You think, Oh, here you go. Here’s your 1200 horsepower. Give me 1200 horsepower. I’ll show you how to launch that thing. Anyway, beautiful rig and fast, even on the trails,

 

wink, wink, not nudge, nudge.

 

Was he able to keep it in control? I mean, was there a lot of tire spin? Was it? No, it was, it was, he did great in it. Absolutely great. Now. I don’t know how he did, how good he would have done at 1200 horsepower, but yeah, for, for what, for the 700? He needs some 52s on that. If he’s going to set up a 1200 horsepower. So I will say this, uh, I was behind him, uh, driving behind him and he pulls over and he waves me by and then I don’t see him again. I’m just moseying down the trail, you know, going through the trail. Uh, and I didn’t think it was a four wheel drive. It’s a, it was a flat trail. And then, uh, after about, um, I don’t know, 30 seconds I see, do you remember the, uh, the, the movie where the robot was driving the, uh, what was it? Uh, forbidden planet and the robot is driving out to pick up the, the, the, the people from the, uh, the, the, the ship that had landed. And all you see is this huge dust cloud. Well, that’s what I saw coming up behind me because he was racing down the trail and that 700 horsepower GLU. Oh, he just wanted to put a little bit of space in between.

 

He wanted to quarter a mile so he could come down that trail.

 

I actually got some shots on the rear camera cause he was coming up on me fast. Is he coming? It was just like sideways. It was straight and this rooster tail of Moab dust.

 

It was really cool.

 

Yeah. So anyway, it was a lot of fun and it was, it was a great time being out there with the, the Golan jeeping group. And we may see some video of it because they had, they had a cameraman there with two cameras, you know, the two different lenses things so he could switch back and forth between cameras quickly. And then there was a, uh, uh, I think it was Michael that was doing video and I actually got to do a little introduction. Uh, the, mentioned the Jeep talk show of my name and being with the Golan jeeping group. So we will see if, uh, if that shows up in, uh, drones out there. No, no drones. Uh, of course, I think you gotta be kind of careful with the drones, uh, at EJS. Uh, I think that some of those places you can’t, I think it was Larry was telling me that you gotta be careful about shooting videos in national parks areas because they tell you, you can’t, especially if it’s for anything for pay. Luckily, we’re not monetized on YouTube yet. Like this for that anyways, but, but yeah, for personal use, I don’t think you do. Um, no, not for personal use, but if you put anything, I thought if you put anything up for public view that you have to have a license, you know, they change just if it’s monetized. Yeah, they change stuff all the time. It could be, but, uh, oh, it would be a wonderful place. Oh, and since you mentioned drone, I think that back there was a drone on that trip and we’re actually traveling down to get to the floor of the valley, uh, to make this trip up to the mine. And I’m on a, uh, what do you call it? It’s a, is it a shelf road? It’s not a switchback, but kind of like a switchback. It’s narrow. Okay. Uh, and he drops off and I’m driving along there in the gladiator and I’m hearing my transmission start making a whining noise. Uh, oh. Yeah. And then I thought, any transfer case or just some, something like that, definitely a transmission noise. And then, and then I think about it and go, I know that noise. That’s the sound of a, of a, uh, a drone, but it sounded a lot like the transmission. I’ll look out to my eyes. I’ll look out. Yeah. I’ll look out to my left and there’s a drone flying by me.

 

Pacing you. Yeah. It was, it was a change. And I’m going son of a bitch. That was my transmission. Wiped it up. Yeah. I’d be looking all around, looking at the gauges. Yeah. In front of behind you. It’s not like you had a light and you’re hoping the car next to you is the one that has the, the, the, the smell or the, yeah. Anyway. So they probably do have some drone footage, but I didn’t see him fly the drone a lot. And anyway, it was, it was a lot of fun. There was lots of footage taken. Uh, it was fun going up to the mine, uh, and, uh, that old uranium mine. And I need to find out exactly what trail that is. It is fun just following people out to go do something, but sometimes it’s a little irritating when people say, where was it that you went? What trail was that? I go, Oh, you know, I don’t know. This is following. It was under the sun. There was rocks.

 

It was, it was definitely in Utah.

 

From the mind of Nikki G.

 

Hey, this is Nikki G. And, uh, last week, Tony you comment about my joke about the Easter Jeep safari. Well, that’s a tough word to say. You’ve mentioned that my comedic

 

timing was off and it was a little bit. I see what he did there, but that’s not why I’m calling. I’m calling to ask, do you know if a cow doesn’t produce milk? Is that considered a milk dud or is it just an utter failure? That’s pretty good.

 

All right, boys and girls, I’ll chat you later. You have a good one. Bye.

 

I knew he was, I know he was sitting the bar low for a, for a good joke.

 

That’s not what I called.

 

All right. Well, anyway, coming up on our next interview, coming up Friday, which is tomorrow, our interview episode with big rich of Cal rocks. Uh, and then we rock, it was Cal rocks. It changed his name to we rock, we rock. And now he has been doing the four low magazine. Josh, were you aware that there is a, an off-road magazine still in print?

 

Not in print. Yes. Actually in print. I actually made the comment to him. And they’re making money. They’re successful. They’re still in print. I don’t know. It, but it’s actually made, it’s actually made in the USA. Well, he said, I said, you know, the one thing you don’t get from a phone when you’re looking at online magazines or a tablet, you don’t get that smell. You don’t get that feel of the paper and the ink and you know, the, you also don’t get to zoom in on the picture. Well, you can. And it’s just, you know, this is really close to your face. Uh, but, uh, he said that it is the, their magazine smells different than the ones made from China or the ones that uses the ink from China because the American ink has a different smell to it. I thought that was very interesting. So people will actually take those magazines and sniff them and be able to tell if they’re made in the USA or if they’re made, uh, uh, somewhere else in the world. Anyway, great inner interview with him. Oh, and get this, uh, this guy’s an off-roader. He does. He makes a living on off-road. He was in a 48 foot boat in Port Aransas, Texas, and he was doing the interview on a star link.

 

And he has a podcast people. Yeah, I know. I know. So, uh, he is the, uh, he is an off-road motorsports hall of fame board of, on the board of directors and on the Rubicon trail foundation board of directors. Frankly, I don’t know how we got him to be on the show. I wonder if either of those are paid positions. Boy, howdy.

 

So, oh, and then you’ll hear on the interview, he went 12 years, he lived 12 years and an 18 wheeler converted to an RV. So it was an RV conversion. Okay. So I think there’s, there’s, there’s some, there’s some series, I think it was the magician or something that they drove around or was it, was it a kit, the car where they had this, this 18, that was night rider. Yeah. Where they, they, they had this whole, this whole mobile laboratory type thing. And, uh, it was only a problem when the one in the bathroom was occupied. Cause they only had one bathroom in it. Uh, but anyway, great interview. Very interesting. It was great to meet big rich. I had a hard time calling him big rich. Uh, but I did call him rich a lot. Listen to that interview. In full disclosure here, Tony, uh, I was scanning through the show notes before we started and you know me, I don’t, I’m, you know, sometimes I won’t read everything quite as much as I should all kind of skim through stuff. You’ll be both. I swear to God up until you started saying, you know, what you were doing actually here just, you know, a minute and a half ago, I thought you would be interviewed big and rich, the country singer. Oh, that’d be all right. I’ve been all right. Uh, and I was like,

 

holy shit. This is big. This is huge. This is one of our biggest interviews ever. My God, this is going to be the one, but no, it’s big rich, not big and rich. Well, I didn’t tell you about the Stacy David interview. Did I?

 

So in our must have stuff for your Jeep. Okay. So this is, you guys are going to be going WTF. All right, but everybody needs it. And sometimes you don’t think about it when you’re out in the, the wilderness, like as in Moab, Utah, uh, the solution wheel and shield washer, this is a windshield wiper fluid, uh, $3 and 11 cents. I believe this is a gallon and what you need in what you need to go with it. It’s the blue stuff. You guys, you know what it’s doing. That’s a Ford brand, Tony motorcraft even has the Ford logo right there. I’m just saying we probably could have found it. But it’s like, well, this is the one that Amazon recommends and it has the best price. So, okay. Well, if it is the best price and it does have the four by E a blue color, like they use electric. So it’s, yes, it is. Anyway, it’s $3 and 11 cents for a gallon. Uh, and the JB weld plastic, well, plastic repair epoxy only, $9 and seven cents. Now, why the hell would you want these things? Well, if you’re out off road and you damage that, uh, when should wiper a fluid container, uh, the reservoir, uh, that is located on the driver’s side defender area, especially if you have larger tires and maybe you’ve taken the wheel wells out of there and stuff, you can damage that. And now you’re in extremely dusty environment with no windshield wiper fluid because it’s all going to leak out. So now you need this after you put the JB weld on there and fix the, the leak. And now you get the windshield wiper fluid, you can put more in there. So these are some things that some things you might want to take with you, not only to Moab, but anytime off road, especially in a muddy environment as then you’re really going to need it.

 

So, uh, it’s, uh, this is also good to have. If you’re driving fast on the trail and you damage your windshield wiper fluid reservoir,

 

it’s a location joke. You had to have been there. You gotta be a little inside baseball there. Somebody’s saying you motherfucker. Somebody’s gritting their teeth, right? There’s one person out there gritting their teeth right now. Yes. But Greg is smiling real big.

 

Well, Jeepers, it’s always a little sad when we reach the end of the trail, but you know, there’s always another trail ride just down around the way. Jeep talk show has four episodes a week. So we’re going to be back on the trail with you here real soon, Tuesday through Friday, because nobody wants to work Mondays, right? Subscribe and never miss an episode. And speaking of subscribing, consider keeping the Jeep talk show on the air by subscribing to the show via patreon. It’s going to help us keep the lights on and well, maybe even get to a show or an event or two, a place to go for all the information, how to subscribe and how to contact us. And of course, all that hate mail goes to Tony at Jeep talk show.com slash contact. I’ve told you Nikki G all, all goes to Nikki G. Broadcasting sense. 2010.

 

All right, Josh. Uh, last time you teased about possibly rejoining the show, any updates on that? You can say pass or, or, uh, no, there is an update that I actually just got yesterday. Uh, Intel. Um, I think I let the cat out the bag that I am very most likely going to be working for Intel here very soon. Um, and that’s going to come with a substantial pay raise. Um, the shift is going to change. My hours are going to change the day’s work that I’m going to change. It’s, it’s going to be a win-win all the way around. Um, it is going to be a bit of a culture shock and a bit of an adjustment period for me because I am going to be working more of a graveyard type of shift more than likely. Um, that’s the one I’m trying to shoot for because there’s a 16 or 17% pay differential for that. Um, and at the end of the month and the end of the year, that’s a good chunk of change. So right now, however, Intel is going through a hiring freeze. Um, that hiring freeze should be over in the next 30 to 60 days. Um, that’s, that’s what I have heard from insiders at Intel, uh, who are sort of helping me with this process. So, um, that means another month or two that I am in limbo, but they had recommended that during that, even though I have applied for a few very specific positions and, and a jobs there at Intel, uh, to just start casting a big net. And what that’s going to do is it’s going to give me a much larger presence in the HR computer system. Uh, and that’s going to help my chances as far as, um, getting a placement, you know, you’re going to interview through Intel, but that doesn’t mean you’re going to get the job that you’re interviewing for. And more, more oftentimes than not, you don’t, they oftentimes will find a better place for you. Um, be like, actually, you’re going to be better qualified for this position. We want you here in this division at this department. Um, and so likely that’s what’s going to happen with me. They’re going, I’m going to get in, I’m really good with the interview process. They’re going to see like, well, you didn’t mention half of this on your resume. We actually want you over here. So, um, what shift I actually ended up getting, I don’t know. Um, but, uh, most of the shifts for the positions that I’m applying for are like a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and every other Saturday. Um, and so I would work only work three or maybe four days a week, um, alternating. And I work 12 hour days, 7pm till seven in the morning.

 

So it’s, it’s a bit of a rough jaunt as far as, yeah, I’ve got to commute back out to Hillsborough, but I’m going to be doing it at night when there’s no traffic. So instead of 40 miles through rush hour, I’ll be 40 miles with no traffic and that will take me about a half hour, 35, 40 minutes to get there. So, um, I’m looking forward to it. Um, it’s, it should happen here very soon. Like I said, hiring freeze is in place right now. 30 to 60 days is what I’ve been told, um, from the people who are working for Intel who are helping me try and get these dispositions. So, so everybody say a prayer for Josh, not only just for Josh, but all of us because, uh, I mean, Josh told us last time, he didn’t say at this time, he did all his last time. If he gets this, he can come back to the show. Yep. That’s, that’s a hundred percent. Uh, that’s the plan. Um, it’s just, I’m working two jobs right now. I’m working seven days a week. Usually, um, I get maybe one day off a month, one every five or six weeks sometimes. Um, so it’s, it’s, it’s pretty rough. Um, and I would much rather not work that much, but, uh, but that’s why you don’t hear me on the show. Um, more oftentimes not is because my availability is non-existent.

 

And you know, Josh, I hate asking you and I always tell you that if, uh, I check and see if you can do a, uh, uh, do a guest host on a flagship two episode, the answer no is always fine. Uh, right. And I can see it’s doing more of the flagship twos in the future. Especially as we’re learning your shift and so on and so forth. So, right, right. Yep. It all, and again, it really depends on the shifts that I get on the weekends right now. Um, and, and usually I’m working doubles on the weekends. I try and do that. Um, and I’m working myself to the bone right now, but, um, when I can get them, I pull, prefer to pull a double on the weekends. It’s rough, but, uh, it, like I said, it makes my availability non-existent, but it’s, it’s what I gotta do for right now. Well, we certainly appreciate you making time for us today. Uh, good luck. And I think you’ll be back very, very soon. I’m hoping so. And as long as you guys all are keeping me in your thoughts and prayers and those fingers and toes crossed, it’ll happen sooner than later.

 

You guys have a great night. See you later. Bye.

 

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