Episode 1011 – EJS 2024 Recap!
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– Hi, hello, howdy. – Hello, hello. – Hello, hello.
Not at my lab anymore. – Well, Roger is, Roger’s still there.
– Oh yeah, Roger. – Nobody has nobody to talk to him but himself though.
(laughing) – Jess is there with him. She’ll talk to him.
– She’s missing us right now. (laughing) – All right, so we’re gonna be talking about EJS, EJS 2024.
We had a total of 23 people out there this year and we just had a really good time. Zabow, Mark, the ex-Navy carrier pilot, had a house and had a nice area outside where we could all get together. And what was that, was that on Thursday night, Friday night? What did that happen, Thursday night? – Thursday. – So on Thursday night, it was a nice big open area. It was cool enough where you could sit outside and not sweat like a pig like you do here in Texas. And he also had a campfire, a little place where we could sit around the campfire. And I don’t know about you guys, but I thought that was the best campfire I’ve been to in a long, long time.
– Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
– All right, well let’s start with, some of you guys went to, got to Moab early. Steve, I know that you actually went to Arizona first. You and a crew, who all was with you? Rick was with you, was it Dan and Jason?
– Dan, who’s actually on here now, and then Carrie with her husband, Dwayne and son Garrett.
So it was four weeks out here. – And when did you guys get to Arizona? Was it Monday on Arizona or later the week?
– We’re there Tuesday night, and our first day of wheeling was Wednesday.
– So I’ll just mention this, I’ll just get ahead of this. Steve said he was going to Moab this year and he showed up.
– That’s right. – And everybody got the sticker.
– Yeah, Bill did up some very nice stickers, and one of them was a Steve-O specific sticker.
– He did show up and he was all worried about me being there.
– I was worried about you being there, driving your TJ from after you had done a lot of work to it, driving it from Little Rock all the way into, or Conway, all the way to Arizona with Steve and then onto Moab, and you broke it too.
Tell us how you broke your TJ, and I was thinking it was the front axle that you had broken, because that makes more sense, but it wasn’t, it was the rear axle.
– Yeah, it was the rear axle. Actually on the way to Arizona, I kept smelling gas really strong, and it turned out I was dripping gas pretty steady out of my fuel pump. Steve-O was like three days, I kept complaining about the gas smell,
and the O’Rally’s guys,
and just before I leave on the trip, Apple decides to upgrade their security protocol, so my app, my OBD2 reader app wouldn’t work, so I had to go to O’Rally’s to get to figure out what was going on, and they said right off the bat, replace the fuel pump, and I argued with it, so I did this whole thing to replace the fuel line, because that’s where I thought it was leaking, and it turned out it was cracked, and had to replace the fuel pump anyway, but thank God I put that access panel in the back, and that was a lifesaver, because that had been terrible trying to do out there. – Tell the folks about the access panel, because I didn’t know about it until recently. – Yeah, it’s, I mean, I bought mine from Genrite,
and also there are several other companies also sell them, but like on the TJYJ, I’m not sure what all models they would help out, but this is basically a square access panel in the very back, you cut a whole wing, put this access panel there, and I think it’s eight screws, and then you have access to the whole top of the gas tank, and the pump, all the lines there. – So basically you can take that panel out of the way, and boom, there’s the fuel pump, so you don’t have to drop the tank to make changes, or to reconnect hoses, or to see what’s leaking.
– Right, and sure enough, it was leaking pretty good. – Oh yeah. – And then when we got to, still, we was on Steelbender, was it the third day, second day? It was Tuesday, wasn’t it, in Moab. Yeah, the second day in Moab, Steelbender, and I still broke her instead of still bending,
and basically slid back into a trough. – Did you say tree? – With the wheels spinning. – A tree.
– Trough.
(laughing) Now it wasn’t a tree, but it’s just a trough, and I told myself before I did it, whatever you do, don’t allow, don’t slide back into that with the wheels spinning, and sure enough, that’s what I did, and it cracked, it actually didn’t, it cracked there, but it didn’t break until about maybe 200 yards up the trail, going up and up, past, or driver’s side up, incline, and there was, I don’t remember, I wasn’t all the way in the back, but there were several people all the way up on the hill already, and when it cut loose, it cracked, everybody heard it. I was like, because I got on the radio, I said, “Did y’all hear that?” And they sent everybody, said, “Yeah, we all heard it.” – That’s a shame. – And then, yeah, and then it was a matter of,
getting under there, pulling the rear drive line,
you basically drove it out in front-wheel drive, except where I had help from Roger, who pulled me up over all the major obstacles that I couldn’t get over, and then, on the last obstacle,
Jess broke her U-joint, but I think she had a little help breaking it, but anyway. – Roger does what he can.
So, did you say what trail this was that you broke it on?
Still bender. – Yeah, it was still bender.
Yeah, yeah, I turned it into still breaking. – Well, you bent it, then broke it.
– Yeah, that’s true.
But just a plug for BFG Garage, found out while I was there that they set up a tent. They’ve got about six stalls, I think they set up there, and if you bring them the parts, and if it’s not, and I don’t know what they consider a major deal, because there’s three different mechanics working on that thing off and on for at least four or five hours, but they say if you bring them the part, they will fix it, and there’s no charge. – That’s amazing. – And, you know, yeah, it’s super amazing. – I need to bring a set of, ring an opinion, and a couple of lockers next year. (laughs) Get a gear change, and a ARB locker installed. – Well, and if I could add on that from Rick’s standpoint, Steve from Aurora, Illinois, when the text first came out that Rick broke an axle, Dan and I were in town just to see if he could break an axle, Dan and I were in town just walking, checking out the shops, and we’d gotten off the trail. So we actually walked down to the BFG garage to see if they had any insight where to get an axle, and they were more than helpful, not only that, but they’ll call this guy, this guy deals and all this stuff, right? And so we were helping from down in town, then at the same time, I’m getting a call from Roger, he’s got a broken U-joint on the same trail, or no, was it U-joint? – Yeah, he just sounded like he was on the same trail because he was running 50 watts. (laughing) – At one point, Dan’s in O’Reilly’s looking for the U-joints, I’m at CarQuest looking for the axle, and we’re talking about the radio with each other because Dan’s asking me, well, does Rick have disc brakes and what was it, any lock brakes? I’m like, I have no fricking idea, so I’m calling Carrie, because Carrie’s cell phone’s the only one working up there, she’s talking to Rick, so it was like a four-way conversation trying to get these parts. – Yeah, and that’s a good thing to mention actually is that if you’ve never been to Moab,
your phone call, certainly your internet access is very spotty, it really is very dependent on where you’re located, and it may come and go in an instant while you’re driving. Your phone will automatically blow up and you’ll start getting all these text messages and stuff coming in. So keep that in mind, and actually, Bill, you had an inReach with you, I believe, and that’s one of the reasons why you have an inReach, some of the rest of you may have too, but I know Bill carries one, and it’s not a bad thing to have alternative communications available.
– Yeah, and I would say just the support there, because I mean, Bob had a breakdown too, and the same thing, everybody kind of kicked in, like Chuck and I, we got him off the trail, Chuck and I drove down to town to go get my trailer, and while we were doing that, I think Bob was able to call Riley’s to find a radiator, and then I think Dutch and Tuche drove to O’Reilly’s to go get the radiator, and by the time we had Bob back at the rental house, there was the parts were there, and it was, they started swapping it right away, so everybody was able to kind of get their vehicles repaired and back on the trails pretty much same day, so. – The CS Bob’s still here, I never know when he’s at work or not, and when he just joins in momentarily.
– He’s on. – Oh, there he is, there he is. – There he is, picture’s here. – So, Bob, tell everybody what happened, because usually whenever there’s a radiator blows up, it either splits or something gets pushed into it, and it can be motor mounts, transmission mount, or any of that stuff, this wasn’t the case for yours, was it?
– No, the bolt on the bottom of the radiator came,
was a little bit loose,
and I went up an obstacle and slid back down it, or rolled back down it, and when I hit the bottom of the B, it was pretty solid, and everything was free spinning, but the Jeep come to a very abrupt stop,
and when it did, the radiator actually swung back the bottom of the radiator into the fan and caught one of the blades, so. – And this wasn’t a mind contact either, I think you told me that you actually bent one of the blades. – Oh yes, it twisted one of the blades into the radiator.
So, yeah, but like Bill said,
we hooked up, winched me up over the obstacle, hooked on a rope, and pulled me off the trail. For some of the obstacles, it was easier just to unhook and drive up them, and then we got off the trail and parked, Bill and Chuck went and got the trailer, and the wagon here, and picked me up, and Dutch and QJ met me at the condo with the parts, and we had it all changed out. – Yeah, we were lucky that it was a radiator, and you could just replace it very easily, and I don’t know about nowadays, but generally speaking, those things are around 100 bucks for a TJ.
They’re probably 300 now, but thank you for the inflation. – And Rick from Arkansas, one other thing I’ll interject in this,
he was able to get his parts at O’Reilly’s. I know when they were looking for the axle,
they were talking $850 for the axle, and they wasn’t sure when it was gonna come in.
The guy at the Ford dealership told me that he had some chrome Mollie axles, but I wasn’t sure what those were gonna cost. (laughing) So one other source, and I don’t even remember who told me, they said, “Hey, why don’t you check on Facebook Marketplace “just in case?” And sure enough, got on Facebook Marketplace, and there was a real good guy, he was a fellow jeeper, just happened to post his takeoffs that day, and I was able to get him for 250 bucks, and that’s what I’m– – And you got two? You got two of them? – That’s what I’m– – Or one? – Yeah, well, I got both left, the driver and passenger.
I didn’t need the passenger.
Go ahead.
– Well, was it Roger?
Well, I think that’s a great deal, especially for Dana 44 axles, I’ve never bought one, but I’ve heard they’re a little more expensive than say a Dana 30 or a Chrysler 8.25 or a Dana 35.
– All right, and my preference is not to have the chrome-moly axles, I would prefer to have my fuse outside versus inside.
No telling what it would be to try to find, if something got broke inside that carrier,
there’s no telling what that would have been telling, I probably would have been dead in water. – That was one of the things that caused the BF Goodrich guys more time, wasn’t it? They were cleaning out all the metal debris?
– Right, well, they were trying to get that little piece that was trapped in the carrier, the end of the shaft that was broke off, and it took them quite a while to get that out.
– So I’m gonna lose you guys here in a minute, just so you know, because I’m almost back to camp, but I’m pretty sure you already mentioned it, but I was lost a couple of minutes, if you mentioned how great the guys at the BFG Garage were.
– Oh my God, there’s a move. (laughing)
– Perfect, Roger. – Thank you, Captain Roberts.
(laughing)
– Roger. – I can’t wait to lose service, that’s all I can say. – Roger, if you only knew how perfect that timing was, what we just talked about. – I gotta tell you this, Travis is so happy, Roger is a regular here on the Zoom meeting, because we used to attack Travis for everything. (laughing) – I’m going to let you guys go back to beat up Travis a minute, because that’ll be almost back to camp. – I won’t be here to kick around much longer. – I kind of want to beat you up after all this though, Roger, because I’m like seriously, just give it a minute and then go ahead. – You’re breaking up, Travis, what do you say? – I’m sorry, you’re breaking up.
– Yeah, so it’s all good, we like giving everybody a hard time here, so don’t take offense at it, don’t feel bad for Roger, he likes it, he wouldn’t feel loved if we didn’t give him a hard time.
– I’m not here to screw this shit, I’m just kidding. – So, how many, every time we made a creek crossing, how many times did I hear, hey Rick, you’ll be careful, watch out, there’s a creek cross here, da da da.
It’s four inches deep, better be careful. – So Rick sunk his TJ, what was it, a couple of months ago in a lake?
Or was it the Pacific, I can’t remember which one it was.
– It was, well actually it was in July and it was a little, a small river. – But it was, he really sank that TJ and he drove it home and he’s been doing a lot of work to it and gosh, Rick, how much time between you last working on it and driving it to Arizona than to Moab, how long was that, a month or were you working on it to the last moment?
– I was working on it Sunday night, lift Monday morning. – Perfect.
– Hey Rick, we released a couple of deeps in your, couple of ducks in your honor in a creek crossing today, just so you know. – I appreciate that, I appreciate that. – They immediately sunk. – Not a problem. – I think Steve-O was more worried about– (indistinct) – Yeah, okay.
– Bob’s just lucky that Rick did that so we didn’t hear about him driving backwards through the creek and chicken corners all.
– Oh no, we heard about it. We heard about it. And a sign, I don’t know what that was about, but apparently there’s some reason to talk about signing. – So don’t forget to turn that to music. (laughing) – So Matt, you were at EJS with us last year, how badly was it not going to EJS this year, especially hearing about all the stuff that was going on?
– It was rough seeing short sleeves, but also missing it. (laughing) – It wasn’t hot and cold, it really wasn’t cold. Sometimes the morning it was kind of cold, but during the day it was perfect, 60 degrees. – Ah.
I woke up with ice on my 10 o’clock morning.
I woke up with ice on my 10 one morning. – Yeah, morning to our cat, Rusty.
– Yeah. – Well, coming out of the hotel, I think I wore a jacket the first day when we went on the Tread lightly thing. Did everybody go on the Tread lightly thing or was it, because I know that that was one of the events that a lot of us wheeled together. I think, I know that Rick and Steve over there, I think Roger, weren’t you there if you’re still here, weren’t you at the Tread lightly event? (indistinct) – They had a really good turnout. And I’ll mention that Matt from Tread lightly told us, told me something I didn’t know before. They get $31 an hour for everybody that shows up. So it’s like $31 matching funds from the government. So it helps them immensely to build those fences and do things that they need to do to help protect the trails. So I was really happy about that. Really, really happy to hear about it. So it’s even more than just the work that you’re doing. It’s the getting some, well, I think it was about like 50 cent matching or something like that. I was real happy to hear that. – Well, I think it was good too that everybody showed up with their own tools. So that four hour project turned into like a quick, two hour project. Like we just went in there and just knocked it out because everybody had their own tools. – Well, last year they had a bunch of impact tools, but the batteries were real small and they cracked out really quickly.
– Right, and everybody brought their own tools, their own batteries. And so we just got out there and I think we had like double the turnout because a lot of people didn’t sign up because they ran out of slots. So we just, all these extra people showed up and put their own tools and we just knocked it out. So it was good. It was a good trail ride. – Oh my God, those columns. Right next to where we were working. And when I say we were working, I mean you guys, cause I was just talking to people. – Yeah, that’s about the same. – Tony wasn’t working.
(laughing) I don’t think I’d find you. Cause I’m gonna get you to your networking. – I was taking photos and stuff. Oh, this is funny. So I don’t know if everybody had heard this one or not. So Nick from Murdacon, he’s the guy that Greg Henderson, I’m gonna show you, he’s only built that 700 horsepower JLU with the 392. And it said 700 drivers power. You probably understand what it is, but it has the magnetism performance supercharger on it. But that was the one that was in Greg’s booth at SEMA that I think several of you guys saw. Anyway, Nick was out there. I finally got to meet Nick and I gave Nick a Jeep talkshow sticker and he immediately went to the back of the Murdacon and was putting a sticker on and he doesn’t have a lot of stickers on there. Now I was videoing that, put it up on Instagram and TikTok and people were bitching because some of the back of the sticker came off and the wind just took it away so they were complaining about us trashing up the trail. – I don’t know, we’ve no trail. – Exactly. – Of all things. – So I just said, yeah, we tracked it down and beat it severely and threw it away. So, but it was funny.
– He was also at the BFG tent in a spot next to mine for quite a while. – Was he getting the washer fluid thing repaired?
– I think something about some brackets or something on the front that he had to have removed or something, Greg knew one of the mechanics there personally and of course, and called him and said, yeah, I’ll take these brackets off his Jeep. So I mean, they did a major operation to get those brackets off because it was part of his front suspension. – Hmm.
– Well, there’s Chuck.
And thanks to people bitching at Chuck, he fixed his a gas leak coming out of the neck of his CJ5.
– Not yet. (laughing) Not yet. Sorry about that, Mike got a little hot there. – That’s what she said. – Nope.
– Yeah.
– But Chuck came out, he was a unexpected guest out there and he showed up and had his CJ5. Chuck and I went with Greg and then gone Jeeping on a trail. Chuck, do you remember what trail that was? I wasn’t paying attention. I was kind of concerned about the uranium.
– I don’t think it’s a trail. I think it’s just something that Chris Collard knew about. Chris is of course a National Geographic guy and done a lot of videos and photographers for them. So he’s a plethora of knowledge when it comes to the strata of all of Utah. So it was kind of neat to go do a historic deal. Not really a trail, just a gravel road, but the history on the back end of it was really bitching. – Seeing something that somebody carved into rock in 1836 was cool.
– Yep. – I wanna mention this real quick. I’ve told a few people on the way out because we got to the destination that we had to turn around and go out the way we came in. I was third in line, so it was Chris Collard. What was he driving, Chuck? Was it a CJ5 or?
– No, that’s the 1978 CJ7, one of the original Mark Smith
Expedition de las Americanas. That Jeep actually went from the tip of Southern America all the way to Prudhoe Bay through the Darien Gap. That Jeep has been, that’s a very important Jeep. – Okay, so Chris was in the CJ7, Chuck was in a CJ5, and both of them had half doors, and they were both doing exactly the same movements, hanging out, looking at the trail, doing little S curves and type stuff. It was like watching a choreographed dance routine because they were just doing all this stuff, but it was really fun just sitting there in the gladiator just going straight,
just going up and over things, watching them work those little rigs. It was really cool.
– Yeah, you got a nice suspension on those newer rigs. Chris and I, we have to go around the gravel. Yeah, we have to go around all the gravel rocks. I mean, God dang, that stuff’s pretty bumpy. – And you damaged one of your tires too. I don’t know if it was on that trail or not, but I noticed it when we got out of there and got to a rally point that you had a little flap, tire flap, and I was really surprised because that thing is so narrow.
You had a lot more room on the trail than what the full-size Jeeps had. – Well, if you remember earlier in the trail, there was another guy that blew his tire. Remember that? – That was the Ram’s truck too. So he was a lot wider. – Yeah, and so he blew a sidewall and Chris and I were goofing off going, oh, he’s probably somewhere where he shouldn’t be. So then at the end of the trail, I was like, oh shit, Chris, I probably was where I shouldn’t be because I’ve got the giant flap. So we did a really quick trail fix that worked great. It was pretty awesome. – I actually mentioned Glutread on today’s episode. We record this on Tuesday. So on today’s flagship episode, I’ve actually mentioned the Glutread patch kit. And I wish I had had one because you were actually looking for somebody that had some rubber cement or something to glue that little flap down. Because it wasn’t leaking air. It was just going. You could see that the outside part of the sidewall had been stripped away. – Yeah, we took about two thirds of the sidewall off and used rubber cement and some, what is that, Gorilla tape and some more rubber cement and just kind of made a patch, like a cast on your arm and got out. It didn’t last very far on the interstate, but it got us off the trail and then it was fine. – Yeah, it got you back to your rig to take it back with you. You did more trails after that though, didn’t you?
– Oh, 100%. Bill and I did Poison Spider the next morning. They had like Mach 500. – Yeah, that was a lot of fun, like seeing that little Jeep out there on that trail, like the two of us. And it was cool, man. Like he was just Billy goading that thing up, like all the obstacles. I don’t think we took any of the bypasses. – No, there’s no such thing as a bypass. – It was a ton of fun. – I remember one time, Bill, I didn’t know where I was going. And for whatever reason I was in front, Bill had been there for multiple years and like Bill’s a buddy of mine. I trust him, I’ll just go wherever you go. And then I ended up in front for some reason. I don’t remember why, Bill, but I ended up going up this deal and you followed us or followed me. And then I just kind of got up and you got all the way up and you looked at me, he was like, dude, I’ve been up here three years in a row and I’ve never done that part. Like this is bitchin’. And I was like, dude, our Jeeps are way better than we are. Like we’re the missing link in a Jeep. Like the driver is the one that doesn’t know what a Jeep can do. This is bitchin’, man. – We just kept Billy Gautner away around it is just a blast, a blast.
– Yeah, that was a good time. – Well, in your little Jeep truck, your little Jeep truck, if it doesn’t make it up to the obstacle, you just pick it up and toss it up, right?
– Well, was that Roger? I’m having a hard time hearing. – Never. – You’re buffering. – I said, you’re a little Jeep, if it doesn’t make it up, you just pick it up and give it a toss. And then it’s up there, right? – Yeah, amen. (laughing)
– Yeah, that’s cool.
– Yeah, awesome. – So speaking of your rig, Bill, you were actually in your new 2024 JL, not JLU. You left the 392 JLU at home and you were working a much smaller or shorter Jeep this year. And I think you found that you had a lot of fun with that two door over the four door.
– Oh yeah, I’m sold on wheel on the two door over the four door, just cause it’s just so nimble. And yeah, it was, I mean, I have the stock suspension, I have like, you know, inch and a half spacers on there, you know, 35 inch tires, but that’s pretty much it. But the thing I noticed is just, when you’re going through those obstacles, you can kind of quickly change your line. And then the other thing I noticed is the back tire, because it’s closer, it more closely tracks to the front tire on there. So, you know, on the four door, it’s like you get the front tires where you want, but then the rear tires don’t really track where you want them to, cause you know, it’s just, it’s bigger. And so, you know, I found that it was just, you know, I felt like I can pretty much do anything out there. Like I said, we went on poison spider and there was several obstacles that, you know, I hadn’t done before, things that were just totally new that, you know, I had just, it gave me the confidence to go do that. And especially having Chuck out there with me, you know, certainly, you know, seeing him out there, I was like, okay, well, if he can do it, I can do it. So that was pretty cool. And I also appreciate just some of the, you know, advice and, you know, some, some learnings that I was getting from, from wheeling with Chuck. So I really appreciate that. So it was really, really good time. – So you learned something from Chuck? That doesn’t sound right. – Christ. All right, the party’s over. Everyone go home.
– Hey, Chuck, did you get your bench?
– No, I didn’t get my bench. I’m very happy that you brought that out, Rick. – No, he didn’t get his bench because he didn’t tell me that he was coming. – I texted you on both of my phones. I texted you. – No, you didn’t because we were at dinner and you checked your phones and proved to yourself that you didn’t let me know. – I was like, brother Greg, we’re, we’ll be there, brother Greg. – Yeah, I don’t work through osmosis.
– I thought it. I tell my wife all the time, I thought it. Didn’t you hear me? – No. (laughing) – You know, we had a, we had another group in our, our person in our party that left a 392 at home. – That was it. – And that was Carrie.
I didn’t realize Carrie had a 392 back at home.
– Not only a 392, but a 392 anniversary edition.
Too fancy to wheel. – I guess so. – Hello?
(indistinct)
– That’s like anything post 1978. Like you can’t, you can’t wheel that stuff, man. That’s too nice. – Post 2006.
(laughing) – Oh, shut up, Greg. – So Bill, I’m glad that you mentioned about the, the inch and a half puck lift, because you were out there doing some, some pretty good trails without any kind of suspension lift other than just raising, putting a little puck lift on there to raise it up using the stock spring. So it’s, it’s like what Greg has told us. You don’t have to have anything fancy. You don’t have to have fancy Jeep. Just take a Jeep out there and learn how to wheel. – Yeah, no, it was, it was great. Yep. – What you remember, Bill, like you and I parked right side by side. And I think you’re like a half a tire width longer than I am. And my little CJ five compared to yours. I mean, you’re right here a little bit, but I mean, they’re, they were like pretty, the length of them on the wheel base is pretty damn close.
Like we were able to just, I think that’s why we had such a good time. You have a brand new Jeep, I have a 50 year old Jeep, but they’re not too far off. And we had a blast. – Yeah, I think Bill’s carburetor never had a problem. – Fuck off, man.
(laughing) He just chipped, dude. Like, I fucking come on, I’ve had a bad day. – He came to the wrong place. – He did need some fresh wire that exhaust though.
– It’s ginormous gun safe in front of them. It’s got me distracted, so I keep slamming them. What’s on your head? Where’s your cowboy hat?
– Oh, hold on. Wait, I’ll be right back. Wait, wait, wait, wait. – And it’s not even a flat brim. – You’re right. I didn’t realize it was an extra curved one. That must be a Merrily hat that he’s borrowing.
– Oh, you better not put a flat brim anything on his head. – Oh. – There, I put a little baby, little hat count condom on my head here. – It’s unofficial use only. – You didn’t take this sticker off. What are you in Southern California? – I feel like I’ve got a yarmulke with a fricking bill on it.
– You have the world’s smallest face, I swear to God.
– Hey, Chuck, if Greg keeps picking on you, just mention the word duck, you’ll leave you alone. – Fuck you, Bob. You know, Bob, the reason that your radiator puked out is because of the 50 fucking ducks I found on my Jeep. – Greg, I texted you that video. – Get in your ass. – Greg, I texted you that video about dad’s monkey. – Oh, good lord. – You didn’t respond.
Dad’s hitting a monkey in the dash of that Jeep. I just found it. And it’s like, I don’t get ducked for a reason because I’ve got a fucking monkey. – Is it kind of like a truck monkey? – It’s like a truck monkey, but it’s a CJ dash monkey. Like I was just sitting there screwing around on Sunday and there’s a fucking rubber monkey in dad’s dash for some strange reason. – Yeah, you texted that to me and I was still driving across the country. So I didn’t read any of the text messages because that would be unsafe while driving. – Well, I called you also and you were like, get fucked. – I did not.
– You missed a good campfire, Greg.
– What night was the campfire? – Thursday night, yeah. – I was over there at Zabo’s house and I sent you a message, but I figured you were busy with a number of things.
– Did you send it to me normal or did you send it in that God awful group chat that I had to turn off on day two? Cause it went the bing, the bing, the bing, the bing, the bing, the bing, 28 times a minute. – I thought I sent it to you directly, but maybe not. – Oh, well, I apologize for not paying attention, and I appreciate the group message a million times. I appreciate it, but oh my God, that thing just never shut up. – I couldn’t figure out, Greg, I could not figure out how to delete it. Like I deleted it three or four times and then five minutes later, someone would be texting. I’m like, Jesus tits, boys. – Well, because every time we added someone, it created a new group. And actually someone, I’m not gonna say who, put a wrong number in there. – That’s Tony. – That poor bastard. – That was somebody in Chicago with a hit. – That’s okay, it means everybody gets the wrong number, Steve, when they forward it sometimes. I don’t hold you accountable. It’s an accident. – I have screenshots, I sent you the right number. – That was funny. – So we added that as Kerry, and I thought it was funny that they finally got enough messages from the group and they said, fuck you, cunt.
(laughing) – Whoa, watch the language, this is a famous show. – Well, to be honest with you, Chuck, we all thought that was you at first. – Yeah, I did, I thought it was you. (laughing)
– We all did. – I’d fucking never say bad words in a family show. You fucking fuck. – So that’s why I realized that it may have been the wrong number that I added.
– Yeah, no, I found a way to, what was it called? Oh, I turned off the notifications, so I didn’t have to delete the chat, but I was able to turn off the notifications. And it took me like a half an hour to figure out how. Because as I was trying, it kept going, (laughing) – This is why I called you and asked you if you want to be added to the chat, because I knew it was going to be busy. And you said, yeah, sure, I can mute it if I need to.
– So Greg, if you remember, on fricking Wednesday, I was with you, I never got the phone call, do you want to be added? I did not. I was with you, I still deleted it. I was getting fricking emails or texts or whatever the fuck they’re called on Sunday. I’m like, good night. I’ve been deleting this shit all fricking week. – It’s still, the group is still active. And all you had to do is let me know you need to be removed. And I would have removed you from it.
– I didn’t want to be rude.
(laughing) – So I was fortunate, one of the last nights there got to have a nice dinner with Bill and Chuck.
Or well, not really dinner after dinner. – Yeah.
– And what night was it? Saturday night, Roger and his wonderful wife came out to dinner. – Yeah. – Because they’re spending the whole next week. – Yeah, he’s on tonight. I don’t know if he’s still connected or not because he was getting back to camp.
And Greg, I didn’t get the flag to you. So I’ll just have to send you one.
– Oh, okay.
– Yeah, it was a great time. – We had a lot of people there all week. Rich was there all week this year. He was only with us like three days last year. And I don’t know if you, you probably didn’t catch it, Greg. We had 23 people at the, that were Jeep talk show related at the event this year, which is huge.
– That’s awesome.
– Hey, what was that trail or was it a trail that Gone Jeeping went on? Me, you, Chuck, and the rest of the Gone Jeeping folks. – Yeah.
So that was
mineral bottom. – Was it an actual trail or was it just a place? – Yes, so it’s a road and a trail. So the first portion is a road. The second portion is a trail.
All the way at the end of it is where that
Charlie, whatever his last name was, signed the rock in 1836.
Which proves that graffiti does turn into history. – Yes, it does. – That’s where you were like finding like a bunch of like trees that no one gave a fuck about, but you were down there like tripping down the fucking cliff. Like, oh, that was at the mine. So that was, that was petrified wood. – You threw up that big petrified wood piece and you said, that’s $400. And as Nick was catching it, you said, that’s mine.
(laughing) – I’m like, dude, what the, nobody fucking threw it. – I thought it was cool. I thought it was really neat. I was interested in that stuff. I wasn’t gonna climb down there. – So we found,
– Wait a second, wait a second. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
So we, – Thank you. I love you, Greg. – We, – We’ll come back to that, Chuck. – I just came home, got home last night at about 10 o’clock and I carried six, five gallon buckets full of rocks back across the country for my wife. – That’s a whole back joke. – Like any, each buckets, each buckets probably a hundred, 150 pounds.
And it’s all petrified wood and agate and dinosaur bone. – So you have a, you have a 5,000 pound Jeep towing a trailer with a 7,000 pound freaking Jeep on the trailer with how many pounds of rocks? – A bullshit and, but you won’t text while you drive. Well, that’s great. I’m fucking glad DOT loves you. – Well, I couldn’t text while I drive because I watch movies while I drive.
– So my phone’s occupied. – Pornography is a thing. – Don’t let Chuck tell you he doesn’t care about dinosaur bones and shit. We drove past him and like a fucking four year old, he literally throws his hands down to the side, stomps his foot and goes, but I wanted to see dinosaur. – No, I didn’t say that. – Bill will fucking, Bill will stay.
– Why didn’t you ask? I would have brought you to a couple of the spots with all the dinosaur bones in the oil. – No, no, no. – It was so fucking bad, Greg. Like we’re driving like Mach negative three because fucking Bob’s got a fucking square headlight piece of shit or whatever the fuck he’s got. And I was like, dude, either we’re gonna fucking get there or we’re not. So we moved along. And then while my jeep’s overheating, because I don’t know, I fucking have a man fucking motor in it, we get where we’re going. And I was like, I thought we was gonna fucking see some goddamn dinosaur bones on this dinosaur bone trail. But I guess I might’ve stopped my foot a little bit. – So I will say that, and I hate to say this out loud, but Bob’s driving a TJ with a straight six, which makes more horsepower than your 304 ever could. – Damn it. – Greg, shut the fuck up. Did you hear the motor? – My motor sounds better though. – Your motor sounds better, but his makes more power and more torque. – I hate you all day long. – And I got a huge ass. – Like twice on Sunday.
I fucking hate you. You and I are friends, not anymore. Like I’m deleting you. I’m taking your yarmulke off my head.
– Good, Chuck. I’ll make it better.
Pick one. Are you ready? – Oh no, he’s standing up. – Uh-oh. – I know you like your wiener or your head or what the hell you got. – No, this is an offer only for Chuck. I’ve got one complete set and Chuck gets to pick one. – I just want my fucking bench. – Shut the fuck up, I’ve got the bench.
(laughing) All right. – Oh, buckles, here we go. – Yeah, fuck yeah. – So that is the complete set of all the Easter Jeep Safari Belt Buckles. This one has a CJ5. This one has a Willys. This one has a TJ because they’re the best.
This one is a CJ7.
This one looks like a Suzuki Samurai, so that’s gay.
That one’s a JK, so it’s really gay. Also JK.
A Hummer, because that’s really stupid.
This is a JK and a Willys, and this is a YJ.
Which one do you want? – He wants the Hummer.
– Well, he wants a Hummer, but he’s gotta ask his old man. – Yeah, they are. – How do you get stuck by mine?
(laughing) – So, wait a minute. So I get one of the complete set? – Yes, this is one complete set. You can have one of them. – Those are awesome.
– So I’ll run up to you and I’ll grab one in person. I wanna see him in person, and I don’t know that I wanna break it up. Because you can’t break up something like that. Do you have multiples or what?
– No, I don’t have multiples anymore. I used to have multiples of a couple, but this was the complete set. And if you really look at the detail in this. – My goodness.
– Even the focus. – Let’s, well, I’m just gonna take a trip up there. – So this is your dad’s Jeep, right? That’s the CJ.
That’s what your dad’s got. – I think that’s fun. – And they say, so this one’s from the 26th annual Easter Jeep Safari. – That’s from– – Forever Utah.
– Yeah, let’s figure it out, Greg. I don’t know that I wanna break it up though. Maybe it’ll be mine. Maybe you can just put my cattle brand underneath it. We’ll just burn it in your wall saying that you keep it. – And the best, if you look on the back,
this is number 11.
So that’s where it gets really good because if I flip some of these other ones over,
this one’s number 11.
– So how about this, Greg? Let me just bring, I’ll run up there because I’ve got to lose some weight before I go up there, right? Because it’s probably fat. (laughing) So I’ll lose my weight. – And this is a cowboy belt buckle, right? So this fits your belt. – Yeah, well, that’s a thin belt for very thin people, which I guess I’m not, I’m gonna go up there and I’ll just brand your wall and try to get it to fit in this one. – Well, I’m gonna do it. – Yeah, I’ll do it. – And I’m gonna go up there brand your wall underneath the one that I want. How about that?
Well, I know how to get more. Most people don’t know how to get more. I can get it replaced. So it’s not a big deal. You want it. Yeah. I do want it, but I want all of them. Greedy. Well, if you want all of them, you can buy all of them. I’ll sell you the whole set. I know what I paid for it. All right. Let’s figure it out. Off air. He’ll trade you a bench for it. All right.
No, the benches already mine because that’s it. That’s an inside bet between Greg and I that I don’t know. The bench was only going to be yours. If you told me you were coming to Moab and you didn’t tell me that you showed up, were you drunk on Thursday? Did you free or Friday? Did you forget?
Oh, no, no, no. That doesn’t mean that that isn’t solid yet. I might, I might have your space. And if I have your space, you get no bench. You pay me money. It’s still a bet. That’s an inside.
Well, Bill knows about it. So it’s not really that inside. Yeah. Yeah. I might up it to a thousand just to see it.
Your wife was like, get fucked. You know, that was awesome. She’s like, no, fuck you, dude. Yeah. If she wouldn’t have been there, I would have kept, I would have held up my price. But as soon as I realized my wife was standing there, I realized my foot was so deep down my throat. Oh yeah. You looked at her and you were just giggling and she was like, you don’t have that. I was like, fuck, I do. Come on.
Yeah. To make inside baseball. All right. Let’s move on. So just for your own edification, I already made the first day on that.
To Warren. Yeah. I already made, I already made one phone call. Yeah. So I’ve, I’ve, I’ve made phone calls too. And I’m getting just a shit ton of information. I was like, Jesus Christ. You too. I had no idea that they had, how integrated those two were, but they were just shitty ass seventies and eighties parents. And you’re like, well, you too, it’s pretty bitches. So if you guys are lost, don’t feel bad. I am too. So it’s, it’s not,
I apologize. Sorry. Most of us, I think.
That’s okay. So the skinny of it is, is I’m going to try and get the black piece of shit put on display somewhere.
Because it’s such a cool old Jeep and it’s, it’s got a lot of history and a lot of character.
Don’t know if it’ll happen or not yet, but I’m going to try. It’s not like that in Chuck’s like, it’s leaking gas left and right. So it probably needs to be set up someplace.
Yeah. I was just going to say, carry a spill kit with you because the gas kept me all over. So I, the first thing I did on Sunday, like I got back Saturday night and woke up on Sunday and I heard Bill’s voice. Like, Hey, you’re, you’re leaking gas. Like, uh, I’m trying to like have husband and wife time. Like I don’t need to hear your voice in the back of my head, Bill.
So I, I went on this thing called the interwebs. I don’t know if you guys know about this thing. It’s like this cloudy type stuff where you can like, yeah, you can communicate through the entire like universe and the strata and they, uh, they make parts because Greg said, Chuck, they make that stuff.
That’s like, okay. So they, I just bought it. It was not that hard to find his like new old stock or like rebuilt shit. Did I make say to have it? No, uh, it was, um, you know, you know, the year of our Jeep, Greg, it’s a kind of the no man’s land CJ’s that, uh, it was just there. It was very easy to find. And I bought it. And it was like 24 bucks and it’s showing up on Thursday and we’re just going to put new ones on. And I ended up calling the Jeepster man to get the operator. So, um, I’m going to get a new carburetor through him because that, uh, that 2100, there’s a lot of different variations. I want to make sure I get the right one, but it’s very easy to find parts for this Jeep. And I was kind of blown away. Well, it’s a, it’s got a three or four. So you should put it a nice intake and a big four barrel on it. Actually. It’s not my Jeep, Dick. It’s my dad’s Jeep. Like I don’t, obviously even with shitty carburetor, it’ll run. So you just run it. I’m not fucking with it. Yeah.
Bill, Bill’s still here. I’m hoping. Yeah. We’ll tell you leaky gas or not the thing fucking runs. Oh yeah. For sure. You can definitely air out the fenders. It runs, but it was, uh, having a hard time in front of the XJ. Oh fuck.
You and your goddamn grocery getting son of a bitch. He’s like, Oh, I have a stock XJ and fucking blah, blah, blah. I’m going to get fucking groceries on one tons, whatever.
It’s not one times yet.
That was a fun trail. That was, yeah. I couldn’t believe I, huh? I’m so afraid. I kind of wish we finished it because the rest of it was actually pretty decent. Yeah. What do you want trail? Uh, porcupine. Yeah. Okay.
I was so afraid to be on that on the left side. Like when I went up that place where I got hung up, cause I was like, dude, this thing might have bad breaks. You know, I don’t want to fucking roll off this cliff and I was scared. Like, I’m not going to lie. Like, dude, there’s no fucking way. I’m going to roll, you know, two and a half inches off this fucking like ledge. I’m going to take the harder side. And that’s where I got hung up a couple of times, you know, and then that’s where, uh, Bob like blues radiator and all that kind of crap was like, there’s no fucking way I’m going on that cliff side. Like, nah.
Yeah. Afterwards Rick and I ended up buzzing down there and finishing the rest of it or at least up to the viewpoint. And right as we got down to that, that why where we had to turn around to exit, there was a family in a side by side that pulled up and he’s like, he’s like, man, there was one spot back there that I was just, I was puckering. And I knew exactly what spot he was talking about. We were there. We thought we were all going to die.
I like how you found the motivation to finally get up that, uh, that ledge eventually. Cause at one point Chuck’s like, build back up your Jeep, man. I’m gonna have to winch off of it. And then all of a sudden it’s like, something clip. He’s like, Oh hell no, I’m not doing that. The second that the words came out of my mouth, I was like, you fucking idiot. I’m going to have another recovery sticker from my collection of all this. This son of a, this son of a bitch is going to have this all over the you porn. Like I can’t fucking do this.
That’s funny.
Yeah. Like I watched you walk away and that like a light went on in my back, in the back of my brain, like idiot, like he is going to fuck with you for the rest of your life. Like you can’t do this. Like I can throw the turbos on boys and we’re going to get through it.
How do you turbo speed through that one barrel carburetor? It’s two barrel dick.
Just like my head fits in your Yarmulke here. Like I’m getting a headache. Your fucking hats are so small. You know, there’s an adjustment thing on the back. You can adjust that technical. Wait a minute. Hold on now.
And dang internet.
He’s not used to a bill wrapped around his head instead of being quiet. No, my God. There’s another voice. See adjustable buckle, adjustable buckle. I’ll give you an adjustable buckle later.
Got that curve bill on there. So when he’s looking in the mailbox for his government check, he can find it. Never got one of those. Where’s Larry when we need him? Even when I was in the arm.
I’m wondering if John Lee didn’t join us tonight because he didn’t want to hear us talk about off camera. John Lee, are you here? Because we haven’t talked about off camera at all.
He’s too sad. He messed up. I was sending him videos.
No, I was, uh, I was sorry for letting y’all have your fun. So, but we want to know if you received, I don’t want to, I don’t want to interrupt your, uh, interrupt your EJS party. But we want to know if you, we want to know if you received your postcard.
Yeah, but it was sideways. I mean, somebody even call it a slightly off something. I mean,
I just, I just knew the trash is the fuck those guys.
As a fucking man should good job.
And I’m pretty sure, and I’m pretty sure I have it on my dash cam. I need to find it, but I have a photo that I’ll be sharing or a video clip of you. You guys seeing Chuck with his camera up in front of him, taking a selfie while he is out there on the trail. I wasn’t taking a selfie. God damn it. I was actually taking like a panoramic. That’s what I’m gonna go with.
Well, I don’t have a top because most Jeeps don’t come with tops.
There’s a panoramic.
That’s right. With my Yarmulke. Thank you. That’s just to get his whole head in one picture. Oh, get fucked. Great. It said friend blasting from his Jeep the whole time. I’m just taking the picture. My what? So John in here, right? Said Fred blasting from his Jeep while he was doing the music jamming out there. I was, I was listening to it. Oh, he had a, he had a whole antique tape box.
Yeah.
All I, all I remember is tragedy had ate that tape. I was like, Oh my God. All I remember is tragedy had ate that tape. Bob, who was, who was Dutch Dutch was right behind me. And I was on something with you and Bill, and I come down and hit so hard. It’s a back.
And I was like, Christ, oh dear. And I took it out. I’m like fixing it with my like pinky and Dutch comes up with his girlfriend and they’re like, what happened? I was like, I skipped my, my tape deck. Well, I think that was on Klondike.
I think you’re like, not my Billy Ray Cyrus. Oh, that was my, my, I had a mix. My mom and I made back in the fricking nineties and it was Billy Ray Cyrus and some other people and I was really excited and it fricking ate the tape, man. I was like, damn it. This thing is fucking junk. I was surprised. It doesn’t use these. I thought I don’t have that much money.
Yeah. We don’t have that kind of original Cheech and Chong. Oh, that was good stuff back then. There you go. Aren’t you the one that’s supposed to bring me like the Beastie boys and an NWA and everybody?
The other thing that was just as what he was trying to call the other thing that was impressive was the fact that he had a case for the cassettes. Yes. Yeah. That was that right. A leather. What was it? Leather case for the cassettes. It’s pleather. I mean, come on. It’s 1970s. Not that nice, but everyone’s got to have a tape cassette holder. Like, come on now. Oh, no, that tape cassette holder was not from the seventies. That tape cassette player and holder were from the late eighties. Yeah. It is.
Yeah. Yeah. I do have, um, I have two live crew and, um, I want it. Was it I’ve got everything from the violent femmes to live crew. Easy. Um, I don’t know. I didn’t find any easy. What? No, I didn’t find any easy. That’s kind of bummed out. Feels off. You said if you were going to bring it, I would rock it on the next trail. Cause I will a hundred percent rock to live crew. Yes. One hundred percent. I’ve got the two live crew, the dirty nursery rhymes. Yes. Yeah. One hundred percent. Yep. And I’ve got, I’ve got ice tea and a couple others. Um, I don’t know, there’s like 15 or 20 tapes in there. So, so yeah, I’ll donate them to the cause. Yeah. There’s nothing better than a five foot 11 cowboy and a 50 year old Jeep rocking to life crew. Like that’s bitchin five foot 11. Yeah. What did you fucking cut your boots off? No, you were three inch lift boots. I’m sorry. Yeah, I have to. I got a small wiener bill. No, no.
I was pointed the wrong direction and bill walked up like, God damn it, Chuck. I’m like, I’m not rooming with you to next.
Bill’s like this fucking, you can just stay at the hostel with the gone Jeep and grew the worst part about it is he was looking at me through my windshield, talking to me as he was doing it.
I was watching Bill come down the trail and I’m like, Oh, this is going to be good.
He didn’t tell me or anything. He’s like, he didn’t get on the radio like, Hey, bill. Well, this is one of the reasons why you need to join the zoom meeting because you never know what’s going to be said, uh, what’s going to happen, uh, so on and so forth. So, uh, hope you enjoyed this. I’m hoping that it wasn’t too far out, uh, too much inside baseball for you guys not to be able to enjoy this, but it is what it is. We had a great time and there’s absolutely no reason why you can’t join us. Uh, I mean, we had a bunch of people there this year. I’m so grateful. It would make it, it makes it so much more fun when you have so many voices, so many opinions, and in, in, in some cases, just an audience laughing at the crazy things that are going on. Uh, it was such fun. And, uh, my wife got to go for the first time this year. So she had a great time. She still can’t believe that, uh, uh, that many people would want to be around me for that long, but it is what it is. So hopefully you guys can join us there, uh, next year, EJS 2025. Uh, and, uh, you know, we are going to have something you can come to sooner than that this June, June 8th, we’re going to be having a Jeep talk show, uh, off-road Texas event. Uh, we’ve, uh, I think this is going to be the fourth annual one. Uh, it’s going to be at hidden falls adventure, uh, adventure park. I think that’s right. Uh, in near marble, fall marble falls, Texas. And actually it’s going to, I believe that either, uh, I think Thursday, uh, so the June 8th is a Saturday. So that Thursday, I think people are actually going to be getting to the park and you may be able to be able to do a little wheeling. If you get there on Thursday with Bill and John Lee, uh, who are setting up all the trails, getting those things to set up for the ones that we’re going to be running and then Friday, uh, they are planning on either bill or John or both of them are planning on doing a little, um, uh, not necessarily trail ride, but going to some of the one or more small towns in the area. I’m not sure if they’re going to get to Lukenbach yet. Uh, that’s still being discussed, but I did hear rumor of going to a barbecue place, uh, so it might be a good opportunity to, I kind of have the, the, the Easter Jeep safari, uh, experience. I’ll call it EJS light, uh, but in Texas.
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