Jeep Mods, Tire Rotation Secrets and Gimbal Tech!
Join us for an epic dive into the world of Jeep mods, tire maintenance, and cutting-edge gimbal tech with a Greg Henderson original! In this video, we uncover the story behind a unique Jeep antenna decoration that sparked a viral moment, explore why you should always buy five tires for your off-road rig, and showcase an affordable $29 Amazon gimbal that tracks you flawlessly without needing an app. From tire rotation tips to avoid uneven wear to the physics of balance beads and why humidity can ruin them, this video is packed with practical advice for Jeep enthusiasts and off-roaders. Plus, we dive into torque wrench etiquette, the dangers of over-torquing lug nuts, and why anti-seize is a must for beadlock bolts. Don’t miss the hilarious banter and expert insights from Greg and the crew! 🔑 Key Topics Covered: The story of the Greg Henderson original Jeep antenna decoration Why you should always rotate your spare tire and buy five tires Affordable gimbal tech: $29 Amazon find with built-in camera Balance beads vs. stick-on weights: Pros, cons, and humidity issues Torque wrench tips to avoid damaging wheels and lug nuts Anti-seize for beadlock bolts: Why copper is a no-go Jeep tire maintenance: Scrub radius, alignment, and cupping fixes 🚗 Why Watch?Whether you’re a Jeep owner, off-road enthusiast, or tech lover, this video is loaded with actionable tips to keep your rig running smoothly and your content creation game strong. From saving money on tire replacements to mastering your vehicle’s maintenance, we’ve got you covered! 🔔 Subscribe & Hit the Bell!Don’t miss out on more Jeep mods, off-road hacks, and tech reviews. Subscribe now and join our community of adventure seekers! 📌 Links & Resources: Check out the gimbal on Amazon: [Insert Affiliate Link] Learn more about tire maintenance: [Insert Relevant Link] Connect with us on X: [Insert X Profile Link] #JeepLife #OffRoad #TireMaintenance #GimbalTech #GregHenderson #JeepMods #4×4 #TireRotation #AutoMaintenance #DIY Welcome to Jeep Talk Show, the ultimate podcast for Jeep enthusiasts! Join Tony, and, the crew as we dive into off-road adventures, Jeep Wrangler 392 updates, Jeep Gladiator camping, and the Jeep Cherokee relaunch. From $130K Jeep resale trends to Gladiator tent reviews, we cover Jeep modifications, off-road gear, and events like Easter Jeep Safari and Great Smoky Mountain Jeep Invasion. Get expert Jeep 4xe towing tips, lightweight truck camper insights, and off-road trail guides for Jeeps. Subscribe for weekly Jeep news, join our community at jeeptalkshow.com/discord, and hit the trail with us! Head to https://jeeptalkshow.com to explore our world of Jeep madness, subscribe, and let us make your day a little more rugged and a lot more fun. Ready to roll with us? Let’s hit the trails together! #Jeep Talk Show, #Jeep podcast, #off-road podcast, #Jeep community, #Jeep off-roading, #Jeep Wrangler, #Jeep Gladiator, #Jeep news, #Jeep modifications, #Jeep accessories, #off-road adventures, #Jeep events, #Jeep 4xe, #Wrangler 392, #Jeep camping, #Jeep trails, #Jeep Wrangler 392, #$130K Jeep resale, #Jeep infotainment bricking, #TuneOutdoor Gladiator tent, #RealTruck trail access 2025, #Jeep Gladiator camping, #lightweight truck camper, #$13K Jeep camper, #Jeep Cherokee relaunch 2025, #Great Smoky Mountain Jeep Invasion, #Easter Jeep Safari 2025, #Jeep Badge of Honor app, #women off-road Jeep podcast, #Chic Chat Jeep podcast, #Jeep off-road gear reviews, #best Jeep accessories 2025, #Jeep 4xe towing tips, #off-road trail guides for Jeeps
All righty. Let’s get going. I’m Tony and this is the Jeep talk show round table episode. Hello, zoom people.
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Oh yeah. All right. So we have, uh, the, the way to get into the zoom room is really simple. You don’t have to know a secret password or secret handshake or any of that stuff. All you have to do is come here on Tuesday, 7 30 PM central time and join our zoom meeting. Okay. How do I join the zoom meeting? Well, I’m glad you asked. Uh, you can go over to Jeep talk show.com slash contact and see all the ways that you can reach out and be part of the Jeep talk show community, including joining our zoom meeting at Tuesday, 7 30 PM. And here’s a little secret. We, and I’m gonna steal this from, uh, from Greg, the unofficial, uh, round table episode is on Thursday, also starting at 7 30 PM central time. Uh, we don’t record, we don’t put anything out. Uh, we don’t publish anything on that one. So that’s the, the episode that you can come in, just hang out and then chat. Kind of like what happens before and after, uh, the Tuesday night thing, why you people want to come here two nights a week. I don’t know, but I mean, you’re having fun and I’m very appreciative that you guys enjoy coming here and chatting with one another. I think a lot of good relationships have, uh, have started, uh, because of, uh, the Jeep talk show community, whether it’s on discord or on the round table and through the zoom meetings, and you guys have actually gone and, uh, made plans for trips off road, which I think is just spectacular. Uh, so I think, uh, Zabo has been kind of talking about on the, the discord server about the, the Rubicon, uh, trip is nobody going on the Rubicon trip with, uh, Zabo, they get September 24th.
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I wanted to go. I just ran out of vacation time. I’m, I’m not going to be able to squeeze it in.
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I know, uh, I know, uh, Steve, I was out of vacation time. Yeah. Yeah. We’ll trip up to Drummond Island coming up here, but not enough to get me to California. That’s for sure. That is a long haul for, for a lot of folks. All right. All right. Well, if you’re interested in going to the Rubicon and you’d like to go over there with one of the Jeep talk show listeners, uh, Zabo has a really nice rig. He’s going to be going out there and come on over to our discord server and join in, get more information on the Rubicon run and, um, see how you can attend. I think you’d have a lot of fun out there, especially with Zabo. Good folks. Uh, and I’m not sure who all, who all is going with Zabo. He, he often talks his mechanic, uh, the business owner of platinum off-road out there, they got it’s a responsible for Zabo’s build. So I’m not sure if Micah is going or not, but there may be a few people out there and it’s always good to wheel with somebody. And of course, um, I would say that the Rubicon trail and, uh, the, and Moab Utah are probably the two most popular destinations that every Jeeper wants to go to. So, uh, here’s your opportunity and I’m sure it won’t be your last opportunity.
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All right. So Glenn, uh, he bitched about it last week. Like, where’s my, where’s my questions, man? Uh, Glenn has sent us in some questions for the round table. We’re using them this week because I don’t want to hear more bitching this week about not using them. Uh,(…) yes, you will. Where’s my review? I can’t find my review. Did you take my review? Do you have fair approval? Uh, I’m sorry. I’m just a little surprised that your review didn’t show up. Um, so, uh, we actually got a couple of reviews. I’ll have to mention that on the, uh, the flagship episode, uh, cause, uh, I don’t normally look at them. We haven’t gotten there. Got any reviews in a long time. So I haven’t been going over over there and looking at the, uh, the Apple reviews.(…) All right. So here’s our first question. Do you buy two tires at a time or do you buy a full set? And I’m assuming the full set, Glenn, you can correct this. Um, the full set is, is a full set of four or five?
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Uh, I would say four. Okay.
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Cause always keep the worst one as a spare.
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And I don’t know. Is that a good idea? So, uh, how about you, uh, Steve, oh, do you buy two tires at a time or a set of four?
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Well, this is my first Wrangler.(…) And when I did the lift, I put on five BFGs, but my past, you know, the XJ with the, um, the WJI was about four because the spare tire didn’t matter. I just did a full size that was out of sight, out of mind. Now I’ve got a nice tire on the back, but I rotated in and I do my rotation. So that being said, I’ll probably be buying five when I replace the jail tires.
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All right. How about you, Dan, uh, two or four? Well, last, uh, two sets of tires I upsized. So I’m stuck buying five.(…) Um, they did not rotate my spare in and I didn’t point it out. So my spare is still brand new. So my next one will probably be four.
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Any concerns about the age of the tire? Uh, because I know, especially when over there exposed to the sun, uh, they, uh, they, uh, they age and you have a possible, uh, issue with them, uh, not lasting very long. Yeah. This guy doesn’t touch him if they’re over six years old, they won’t even touch it. But that’s a long time though. Six years ago. Yeah. But, uh, I haven’t get worried too much about it. So, and if it does go on, it’s probably going to be till the other one gets fixed or, and if I have to buy it, probably be two. If, if one got completely trashed and the spare was not good, then it’d probably be two, depending on the age, if it, if there’s enough wear on them, I’ll do all four.
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All right. Let’s, uh, let’s jump over to the Aqua man, Arkansas Aquaman micro Jeep, uh, Rick. Uh, what do you think Rick, is it a four tires or two? Well, so far, every time I’ve got new tires, I’m going up a size. So it’s been five every time. Yeah. So I’m, I’m, I’m still on that journey. Probably once I settle in just depends on the condition of, uh, of the tire. If I’ve got, you know, if I’ve got one that, uh, that looks like it’d be, it’d make a decent spare and I’m staying the same size tire. I mean, economically, it may make sense to keep it or, you know, just depends on how much sun, sunscreen lotion I rub on it, you know, as to time.
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Baby.(…) All right. So Roger is a over the road truck driver. So I can imagine, I bet you, Roger, you probably, when you buy a tire for a Jeep, you probably buy them one at a time and it’s a retread. No, I buy five and I always buy five because if you don’t rotate your spare. And I mean, you’re losing 20%.
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You know, if you wrote to take your spare tire and you get 20% more miles out of them. So, and I would never, once I get down to the point where the other four need to be changed,(…) I wouldn’t, I’d always buy five because otherwise your spare is going to be totally different size than the rest of the tires you put on. Even if they’re the same size tire, the tread depth is going to be quite a bit different, so I’d always buy five.
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All right. Uh, so, uh, Tony Pellegrino, you got plenty of money. You, do you buy two tires or four?
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Wake up, Bob.
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All right. Let’s go. I wonder if he’s answering. It doesn’t know he’s muted.
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Uh, how about you, Jacob? Is it two or four or five?
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I don’t think I’ve ever bought only two tires for anything I own. It’s typically four spare. I usually, I just leave it on the back till it rot. I don’t know if I’ve ever bought two tires or anything. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. Just leave it on the back till it rot. Does it never hit the ground?
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How about you, Kevin? Uh, do you get two tires or four or five or some other number?
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I mean, if I’ve got the budget to do it, four is always the answer.(…) But like, let’s be real here. If you’ve ever had a blowout somewhere and you’ve got, you know, even on our big mud tires, 20,000 miles on them, they’re half worn,(…) you go to discount tire or wherever they replace that one with the warranty.(…) It doesn’t really hurt anything. It’s just not optimal.
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All right.
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All right. So, uh, I know the answer, Greg, uh, it’s always four. Uh, but, uh, do we have to be concerned about this buying two tires? I mean, is there an issue, especially when you’re putting in, uh, you know, putting it in four wheel, uh, low and having a potentially slightly dear different gear ratio from the front to the back, uh, assuming you change, uh, the two tires on the back or the front, uh, is there, can you have enough wear on the tires where it would mess things up, maybe do some damage to the drive train?
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Um, so my answer is very, very similar to Roger’s and I apologize for that, but, um, I’m, I’m kind of a maintenance Nazi. So every time I do an oil change, I do a tire rotation. And in that rotation, I always mix the spare in the loop. Um, I also checked my tire pressure, every oil change to make sure that my tire pressure is really good so that my tires last longer.(…) So truth be told, I always buy five. Um, if I’ve worn them out, I buy five. If I’m changing tire size, I buy five. Um, mostly because when you mix the spare in and you monitor your tire pressure, you can make a set of tires last a hundred percent longer than somebody who doesn’t. Um, your front tires tend to have more wear because they’re movable. They also tend to have more wear because we run into problems like ball joints and steering issues where people haven’t adjusted. So with every oil change at 3,500 miles, I inspect all my steering. I mean, spec, the ball joints, I rotate the tires and I always rotate the fifth in the mix. So 100%, I never buy two and I never buy four. I always buy five because I’m not going to buy just four and have an almost bald spare tire. Right.(…) Um, you mentioned something a few weeks ago called scrub radius. That’s another thing that you have to be concerned about. Uh, if you don’t have the front end set up properly with the, uh, the right size, uh, backspace wheels and offsets, uh, that can certainly cause, uh, more tire wear. Is that something if, uh, if you haven’t corrected the scrub radius issue, is that something that you should rotate the tires more often, especially front to rear?
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Well, mine, yeah. Um, for me, I’m already rotating more often than just about anybody in today’s world, because I do it every 3,500 miles and I even changed my oil more often than most people. So at 3,500 miles, it’s not a big deal. And honestly, 85% of the tires out there or 85% of the wheels out there don’t have the right scrub radius. People didn’t look to make sure they have the right scrub radius when they bought their tires. So a hundred percent, if, if your tires are more offset, if they stick out more, um, which causes more scrub, then you’re definitely going to wear your tires out way faster than if you had the right scrub radius.
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So, so very good question, Tony. Thank you. Uh, George, uh, tell me about your tire buying habits. Do you buy, uh, two tires, uh, when you need tires and rotate them in, or do you go ahead and buy four or five?(…) Yeah, I always do a full set,(…) whether it’s four or, um, only the XJ I carry a spare on, but the, uh, otherwise I do a full set and I rotate them. I do not change every 5,000. So I rotate that.
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So when you’re, when you’re rotating those tires, do you have a lift that you can change those or do you, or are you putting them ball and up on jack stands or doing it even more difficult where you move them around and lift up one, one corner, move it to the next corner and then you can do it. Really a long way around to get it all done. Yeah. Unfortunately I take the long way. I do a very safe way of putting two jack stands on the front end and the jack and the rear end, and I just quickly move the tires around, not the safest thing, but it’s what I get. No, I mean, it’s difficult. I mean, Greg sitting there with lifts and I don’t know how Greg does it, but I suspect he puts it on the lift and makes things a lot quicker and easier. A V-per-dicep, I think. It makes things a lot quicker and easier.(…) 80% of the time the lift is trapped with something like that. So I do it with Jackson jack stamp.
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If you’re rotating the spare in well, you don’t even really have to worry about the showing that I have one round tire off at a time you can correct. So you don’t even know if you’re just jacking up one tire at a time. So it’s the rotating the spare and also makes the whole process.
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Very good. All right. So, uh, let’s jump over to our next question. We’re going to try to get through all four of these tonight. Um,(…) what’s that?
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Quick question. Sure. When you rotate your tires,(…) do you rotate them by taking them off the rims and moving them around, or do you just move the rims around and, and you’re going to have now you’re going to have some tires go on different direction than what you did previously.
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Does it matter?
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My answer is I don’t, I don’t think it matters unless you have directional tires and other than swamper’s, I don’t know of many directional tires.
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But when I sold tires, we told people that we would rotate front to the back and back to front. The only exception would be a dually with stock wheels because of the way the wheels align, but like, so here’s where, you know, getting custom wheels comes in fun. My dually has six different wheels that only fit in one spot.
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So if you want to rotate those tires, they have to come off the wheel.
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That’s pretty wild. Yeah. But on a, on a Jeep, you know, you’re going to rotate, you’re going to roll. I mean, are you just rotating the front one to the back or are you rotating them crisscross as well? When I sold tires, we, when I sold tires, we told people front to back, but you also have to be aware too, like some factory wheels are left and right side related to, so it really depends on the wheels in the vehicle. Well, I mean, you know, mud tires for Jeeps, you know, most of the stuff, what we’re doing, because like, you know, I’ve noticed that, uh, like on, on my, uh, Nexon’s my front, the ones on the front and I’m getting ready to rotate them again. But I’ve noticed there’s a little bit of a different wear pattern on the lugs. It’s like, like the front of the lug is a little bit more worn than the backside of the lug. So now when I rotate those, if I, if I crisscross them, you know, what, what’s that going to do, am I going to start getting, uh,(…) um, what do you call it? Where you got the Wally wants in it? Capping. Does it sounds, it sounds like that’s what you’re got. What you’re getting is cupping.
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And that could be from, uh, your shocks, not able to handle the, the, uh, keeping the, uh, the tires from hopping as you’re going down the freeway.
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And anybody feel free to jump in there. I’m wrong. Tell me, uh, let’s give, uh, let’s give, uh, Rick good information. And any form of misalignment can cause cupping. Um, so if you’re towed in too much, if you’re towed out too much, if your casters off, if your camber’s off, any of those can cause cupping. And the easiest and smoothest way to adjust that is rotate your tires more often. Because then the tire that’s starting to cup, because it’s been a bad location(…) goes to the opposite side of the rear and hopefully starts evening itself out. And then the next time you do it again, it should go basically to the front. So there’s actually, there’s patterns. And if you do it all five, right, one goes from the back to the front. The other one crisscrosses and the other one crisscross. So it moves a little bit different. So every single time you rotate your tire works its way around the car. So it ends up hitting every single ground spot. Um, so it should even itself out, but a cupping is a sign of something wrong in your alignment.
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All right. Anybody got anything else before we move on to the next question?
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The only thing I’ll add in there is, uh, if you’re buying all five, you can often offset that extra cost by hitting up Facebook marketplace and selling your users. There’s a lot of people out there with trail rates and everything that are looking for.(…) So I try to, it gets down to about 45% or 40% or so like that is, is that’s when you make your repurchase because then you get more diaperties when you’re selling on the, on marketplace.
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So where this came from is that I busted a tire on the trails.
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They’re all the same tread with a tread wear on them, but I needed a new spare.(…) So I’m not just going to buy one brand new spare and stick it on there.
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So I went ahead and bought two and the other tire, which was still in decent shape, I used it as a spare recently.
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One of the older tires, uh,(…) I cut a sidewall on it.(…) So I ended up having to buy two more tires because the other set had decent tread on them still and use the final of the original 35s I had. And now that’s the spare.
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You know, just a suggestion, but a lot of times the tire shops, he’ll find that they’ll have some, he was tires later on.(…) You know, I mean, I would, if I, if I lost one tire, I just put my, my spare into the mix and then just go in and buy a used, find a used tire that roughly wore the same, I mean, you don’t have to rotate it in after that if you don’t want to, but you know, I mean, that way instead of buying two and have an odd ball, you can just buy one used tire.
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There’s plenty of people that get, you know, with lots of money that will blow one tire and they’ll buy five new tires. So this is most of the tire shops will usually have a pile of use.
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All right. So moving on to the next one.(…) Do you have your tires balanced with regular weights or do you use balance speeds? I’m thinking that the balance speeds are probably the, you’re only game in town for a Beadlocks just the opposite.
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I wouldn’t put balance speeds in my worst enemies car.
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Yeah. I run Beadlocks and I had regular regular weights. I’m like,(…) they hold up this one.
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Oh, I’ve always heard it’s difficult to find a place that will balance a Beadlock.
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No, they don’t. I don’t know. Just like anything else. Yeah. Beadlocks balance just like anything else. As long as they are properly installed. The problem with balance beads here now, and this is completely different in Texas. In Texas, you might be great, but here in Michigan, we have a high level of humidity. So anytime you put your air conditioning in, you know, you can’t, you can’t air compressor to your tire.(…) You’re introducing moisture into the tire and it causes the balance beads to clump up and you can actually throw a tire way out of balance where in Texas, you might not have that problem because you have such a low humidity,(…) but any, any state with humidity, I wouldn’t recommend a balance beam. As I stare at my humidity gauge that says 75% in my house. I was about to say, where, where are you in Texas? Well, he’s in Michigan. He doesn’t know about the humidity down here, especially on the Gulf Coast. Humidity that freezes would be a better, better term. Yeah. Well, also, I mean, I found that with balance beads, if I, when I air down,(…) sometimes when I air back up and get on the road, I’d have to stop several times to finally get them back to a balancing, you know, so that they’re balanced again and it was just annoying. So I had terrible luck with balance beads. I had death wobble because of the balance beads. And I know I had plenty in there. Um, I even added a couple extra because the guy that I got the beads from told me to add a couple more ounces and it didn’t matter. And I took them out. Won’t ever use them again.
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Not at least not in my deep tires in my semi tires. I use them all the time. Did you ever gonna fill that?
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What did you say?
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Cause you’re never going to feel the out of balance tire on your 18 wheeler, especially if it’s on the trailer, would you not with that many tires?(…) Well, but I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know what the difference is. I’ve gotten great luck with, uh, getting lots of miles out of semi tires with balance beads, but yeah, I’m a Jeep never again.(…) Well, Glenn, this is your question. So what’s your answer for the, uh, uh, balance, regular weights or balance beads? I get the feeling that you do weights, but you’re considering balance beads, correct? So with the new tires, I just put on a, uh, we have a balance machine. It works. So I used it, but I actually, I don’t think it’s actually calibrated, uh,
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correctly because my smaller tires on my other car, I’m having vibration from it, but 35 that I’m mounting will perfect. Uh, no vibrations or anything out of them. I don’t think the beads are that expensive is since you have access to, uh, some, something that you can mount and balance tires. Uh, why don’t you give it a try and see, uh, I mean, I, I, gosh, I think it’s listening a hundred bucks for the, the, the beads. When you don’t even have to just mount the tire, they make a tool that allows you to put them in right through the valve stem. Oh, cool.
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Yeah.
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What’d be probably interesting is to run it on the machine, see how much it says to take, and then see if you put in that same amount of beaded weight, if it would be balanced or is it just a bag of beads you throw in there? I’m not sure I’ve never used it before. It depends on the size tire. I think for mine, 37, I wanted to say it was like around 12 ounces or something like that, that was recommended.
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I forget the name of the company that we had on, uh, that, uh, that they have balance beads, but they sell to, uh, truckers and also to balance gives it counterbalance, um, and, uh, they actually sell the bags, uh, with the amount of beads that you need for the size tire or the range of tires, uh, tire sizes. So they make it, uh, they make it pretty simple. I mean, I thought that’s what I would do. If I, uh, I got, uh, um, uh, bead lockers, I would probably, instead of going through all the hassle of trying to find somebody to mount and balance the, uh, the bead locks, I just throw beads in there.
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So on the subject of wheel weights,(…) what is everybody’s preference? Clamp on or stick on? Stick on. I do stick on.
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Clamp on because stick ons will never stick as well as a clamp on will clamp on. Yeah. The clamps are pretty well enough. They do. Mine never came off.
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I personally like clamp ons.(…) I sold tires for years and stick ons never worked and we would clean wheels. We would use a clamp on.
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They never worked as well. Stick on typically with the ones I’ve gotten.
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We typically turned by and it worked for bouncing tires. So typically we would use the stick ons for people that had some sort of crazy custom wheel that they did not want to see weights on the outside.(…) So we weren’t getting as good of a balance anyway, because we weren’t actually balancing both sides of the wheel.(…) But outside of that, unless they were requested, we would have to Well, with the stick ons, I have seen some places that it will take. And if there’s a large cluster of weights, they’re going to be stuck on. They’ll run, they’ll put duct tape over the top of them after they’ve got them all on.
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That’s what actually my semi, that’s what they do. And they put the stick ons on on the inside and they just put duct tape over top of them and they’ve always had to peel that off every time I got too tired. So, and that you’re talking 400,000 miles before feeling them back. So that’s what I’m doing. I’m talking 400,000 miles before I’m feeling them back off. So they stuck on pretty good.
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All righty. Let’s see if Bob’s back. Bob, are you back? I’ve maybe Bob’s working tonight. Maybe that’s why he’s a, he’s not jumping in here. Um, nope, not unmuting. So he’s still gone. Um, I told him to stay away from that breakfast burrito.
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I’m fixing the toilet is what I’m actually doing right at the moment, but breakfast burrito. Uh,(…) I always buy five tires for my off-road vehicles and pickups. Cause I rotate my spare in, I use whatever weights the tire shop puts on. I prefer the stick on because for those of you who have wheeled with me, you realize how likely it is I’m going to lose my tire. How likely it is I’m going to lose one of those weights on the outside. I have had that happen.
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And, uh,(…) I don’t remember what the other question was. So, oh, I’ve never used balance speeds, but I thought about trying them. It seems like a pretty cool idea. Always balancing because, uh, uh, you do have to take the tires in and get them balanced from, from time to time, uh, which I think is going to be one of our questions coming up here.
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I like the idea of the beads constantly balancing.
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I think he made a good point about possibly knocking beads. So the rim mounted weights off, cause after a hot spring strip, I’ll come back and my rims are all torn up.
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Um, so I’m sure I’d probably knock off a weight if, if I had the outside weights on them. I think it’s just Bob is driving.
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It might be my driving to them. Uh, you are not wrong, Roger. I guarantee it.
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He’s busy editing software. He just sends it.
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Skinny pedal and go, right?
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All right. So let’s, uh, let’s hear from John. Uh, John, I think you’ve already answered this. Uh, you have your, uh, beat locks, uh, balanced. Are you using, uh, the clamp on or the stick on weights?
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Stick on. And, uh, I have knocked them off, but I just, I don’t know if it, I mean, it works, but I just grabbed some freaking gorilla glue and slapped it back on. And it’s still there now, but it’s not shaken. So I mean, I really haven’t had any issues with the, with the stick on. So I actually just, I almost say the name of the website, right? Unless they want to call it something and get a little ad money. But, um, I actually bought mine from a website that gave me a hell of a deal and they freighted them to me, mounted, balanced, ready to bolt on. Like even had the right amount of air pressure on them. Um, let me give or take a few pounds. Right. Make sure to test it out of there. They had, uh, they had them all ready to go. I mean, I’ll press and got a really good deal on it. So how did you find the weight or did you peel it off? It was coming off and you peeled it off. Or it actually fell off and you just happened to see it. Actually, while I was doing the, uh, the rotation, I’ve got, uh, I’ve got a big, great kit or mine and I’m running 17 inch wheels. So it’s really tight. And though I was trying to put the wheel on, I guess I hit one of them with the rotor and knocked it off until I caught it right when I, when I came off. But that’s the one one I’ve lost. And like I said, I just really glued it back on and it was fine. Um,(…) but it’s overall, I, I haven’t had any issues with it. I’ve done all the way to Colorado and back with them. And so, you know, I’m not a, not afraid to jump in it and drive it 2000 miles round trip and I, I know we had a trip here there. So I’ve been pretty happy with it so far.
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You know, I’ll add something that when it comes to balancing wheels, a lot of, I mean, for people that are putting their own wheels on or their own tires on their own wheels, um, a lot of tires.
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A lot of people don’t know that there’s a mark on the tire itself that represents in most cases where the valve stem is supposed to go, uh, because there is often a heavy point on a tire. And if you put that on the wrong, if you put it in the wrong spot, you may end up adding a lot more wheel weights than that, then we’ll still be necessary. Cause that’s how much you’ll need to balance them. But if you put the tire on properly, uh, in relationship to where that mark is, a lot of times you’ll end up with a lot less, uh, weights to put on.
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Yeah. And when you’re mounting the tires, um, if that, if it shows a lot of weight and then you move the tire, you know, 25% on the wheel, put it back together, air back up, sometimes your weight will go down or up and you can keep moving the tire on the wheel until you get the optimal spot where it uses the least amount of weight.
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So it just takes a lot longer. So most tire shops won’t do that. But if you have your own tire machine like Jacob, you can do it. If they, if they know what they’re doing and they look for the, cause almost all fires are marked where the heavy spot is and where the valve I’m supposed to go. I just, a lot of people don’t even look for it. A lot of some of them will have like a sticker. Some of them have like a little red, red brown circle. Yeah. They’ll have a little green dot or blue dot. Yeah. And if one of the other problems with, with a lot of the aftermarket wheels, they’re not nowhere, they’re not nearly as true as a factory wheel. Right. So sometimes it doesn’t line up with that. Velve stem hole. Sometimes that lines up with a completely different spot on the wheel. Cause you know, 95% of the wheels are made in China. And sometimes that 12 year old kid didn’t stop the machine fast enough. Well, that, and like, if you’ve ever seen tires get delivered, they don’t get delivered on pallets. They’re all rolled up next to each other. Oh yeah. Big piles. Yeah. So that dot can rub off. Like I’ve probably installed a couple thousand tires.
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Not that many of them had that dot.
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Yeah. I said, I read recently that the dust not so much as saying,(…) at least I had met anymore, I know for motorcycle tires, that absolutely is.(…) So the dot is the heavy spot goes away from the valve,(…) but they, I thought I had read somewhere recently than on automotive tires, it’s not so much a thing.(…) No, it’s another funny one is the wheel locks, like the factory installed wheel locks, they’ll have, they’ll take one of your lug nuts off and they put on one of their luck, their wheel locks and like Chrysler forever had these huge, clunky, heavy ass wheel locks. Well that throws the tire off balance like six ounces because you’re, you’re adding an ounce, you know, at the center by the time it translates out to the outside of that radius, it’s, it’s like a six ounce out of balance.
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All righty. So unless anybody has anything else, let’s go to, uh, how often do you get your tires balanced and, or rotated? I know that, uh, Greg, you do 3,500 miles on the rotation, but, uh, how do you handle the balancing? Do you, can you balance there in the shop?
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Um, I do not have a. A monitor or balancer. So I go to the tire shop up the road and I do it. After every hardcore off-roading trip, you know, where I’m really in the rocks or doing something stupid. Um, so literally, as soon as I come home, the first time I go to O’Reilly’s, I’ll stop at the tire store and get them to balance my tires. Um, other than that, it’s about every six months, like on the wife’s car, about twice a year, I haven’t balanced because as they wear out and as she does burnouts or drifts into a parking lot, right? It causes issues to the tires. So about every six months I balance the tires because as soon as your tire is out of balance, it is now fighting your suspension, just like you mentioned earlier, it’s fighting your shock, which is wearing your shock out. It’s fighting your ball joints. It’s fighting all of your other suspension components. So a properly balanced tire causes less wear and tear on the rest of the vehicle. And with these Jeeps that we love driving these big, giant, heavy tires. It wears stuff out a lot faster if it’s out of balance.
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Or you even just rip the lug off while you’re out on the trip.(…) Yup. And a hundred percent. So most of the tire shops, most of the big name brand places, whether it be a discount tire or a can rock or whatever it is, most of them offer when you buy the tires a lifetime balance, so they’ll rotate and balance every single time you drive in there, if you want to drive in once a week, because it’s lifetime, they’ll do it.(…) So even, even if I get tires from a manufacturer, right? So if, if Kendra or BFG or Nitto sends me a set of tires for one of these builds, I’ll still have them installed at that local tire shop and I’ll pay for that lifetime service.
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So, cause it’s usually about a hundred bucks. And then every time I need a rotation, I don’t have to do it. I can drive up there. Every time I want to balance, I drive up there and it’s free.
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Cool. Cool. Cool. I’m just, I was just thinking this is probably a dumb idea, but has anybody ever thought about putting, putting, having the, the tire balance, you know, with the weights and then adding balance speeds so that as the, the tire gets out of balance over time, the balance speeds kind of make up the difference.
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I wouldn’t do it. Suspender and belt is what I’m thinking. I’m back to that here in Michigan, our humidity is so high. Balance speeds are worthless. Well, and you’re, you’re thinking, I mean, once you’ve got a tire balance, and you stick weight in it, now it’s out of balance. I mean, well, they’ll be spinning around the entire tire. Right. But, but that means if it’s, but if the tire is balanced and you stick, say, you know, 10 ounces of weight of balance speeds in there, now those beats are, I mean, where are they going to go? They’re going to have to evenly, evenly distribute all throughout the tires. In order for it to still be balanced. And I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t define on those balance speeds doing that. They totally will do that. Yeah. Not for me. So the way balance speeds work. Oh, I know how they work.(…) No, the mass of an object when it spins,(…) it wants to rotate around its own mass. That’s why a wheel vibrates when it’s out of balance. It’s, it’s that the, it’s not that that one little out of weight spot is pulling the tire, it’s that the tire wants to center itself around its mass.
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And that’s not true in the center of the circle anymore when your wheel’s out of balance. So your balance speed goes to the spot where it needs to be. It’s not magic. It’s physics. The beads are pulling out of balance. And then the rest spread out throughout the tire evenly. So you’re tired, 100% balanced and you put balance speeds in it. They’re just going to make an even weight all the way around the tire. That’s right. I think the experience that we’re talking about those for those that drop more than 35 miles an hour. So once you get above that, I mean,(…) I realize it’s uncharted territory for you. But once you get above that, then balance speeds are going to be a little bit more balanced. I’m with Roger on that. I got to go with the beads. So you have to get above a certain speed for the balance speeds to work. I guess if you had 35 or 40 with a certain amount of inertia,(…) yeah, they got to have certain rotating speed. But somebody in order to throw to their spot. If it was a good idea to do that, why would it, why would people do that? I mean, I think it’s a good idea to do that. If it was a good idea to do that, why would, why would tire manufacturers have different set amounts of beads to put in their wheels? They would just tell everybody to buy 20 ounce of balance beads and dump it all in.
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If it was a good idea to over, you know, to not just balance it, but overdo it. Why wouldn’t they suggest it? Why wouldn’t they tell you to get, you know, like I said, the same amount. I mean, they could throw 30 ounces in every tire because that would, that would incorporate every tire, right?
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You could.
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But it wouldn’t be, but they don’t do that because it’s not a good idea.
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No, I’m telling you, Roger, the physics of how balance speed works,(…) it would work. Yeah, and a perfect scenario. But as soon as you add an ounce of water in there and they clump up anyway, then you’re fucked. Yeah, that’s a whole different problem though. Right. I’m telling you that the physics of it would work.
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In a perfect world. There isn’t arguing with physics. Physics is physics. It’s, it’s set. It works or it doesn’t. But the way that works. Bob is channeling his inner Sheldon.
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You’re not wrong, Greg. I mean, I mean, this is the reason why I mentioned it because to me, the way balance beads work, at least my limited understanding is, is that they’re going to go to where the, the, the, the tire and wheel combo is out of balance. And if it’s balanced, they won’t go anywhere. Yeah. So a hundred percent. And Bob is also a hundred percent correct.
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My, and the only reason that I’m against him is because I’ve had a negative connotation when, when we air up and air down all the time, because we’re going off road and we inject a whole bunch of moisture into the tire, then the balance beads don’t work. And now you have a 20 ounce clump in one spot and you shake your fillings loose when you’re just trying to go to the gas station. Well, and physics is math. And I was told there would be no math. They need to add some of those little beads that you get in those little packets to keep the thing where it says don’t eat, where it keeps the pills or whatever drive. Let me, let me throw another monkey in here with all the squirrels. Well, Travis isn’t here, but go ahead.(…) All right. So, and I know I’ve asked this question before. And I know Roger’s got a little Roger’s got some opinions on it. So there’s another device for, for balancing your tires and you wouldn’t have to worry about humidity and that’s that central, whatever it is. It’s the dramatic. Yes. Intramatics. And that’s the ring that, that mounts in between your tire and the, it basically in the mounting surface there, and it’s got all the beads in it, or I don’t think it’s beads. I think it’s actually like some top of the field. Yeah.
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But anyway, so that is doing the same thing, but you don’t have to worry about the humidity. Now what? So the theory behind those central medics is it’s not only balancing the tire. It’s also balancing the axle or the hub. And that’s why they like in some ways they use them a lot cause the hubs are pretty heavy. I don’t like them. If you’re somebody who looks at your wheels on a regular basis, I mean, like all the time and you’re going to spot a one or two 30 second defect that’s starting to create on your tire. Well, you’re pretty good, but then they’ll work for you. The problem I have with central medics is they mask the problem. And by the time the problem becomes apparent, because you know, your tire’s, you know, wobbling or shaking, or it’s starting to throw some real deform to it, like cupping or something, by the time that it happens, you might as well say tire off, throw it away because it’s not going to last because once the tire starts to wear bad, it doesn’t stop. You can’t correct it. It’s just going to keep going. So central medics, in my opinion, and I got rid of them off of my semi ahead of on all, all 10 in all 10 spots. And I got rid of them because they mask a problem until the problem is so bad that the tires are junk.(…) So that’s why I won’t use them period.
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You just got to learn to do a better burnout.(…) Yeah. If you took all the time to make sure that your wheels were right and had the right offsets, that your scrub radius was good and then you slapped those on you fucked it all up. Well, you know, that’s why I said the idea behind those things is also, then that’s why they get mounted on the hub usually in between the hub and the wheel is because it’s supposed to, it’s supposed to not just balance the tire. It’s supposed to balance the hub and the tire and wheel.
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But again, I don’t like them. Oh, and I guess I should mention that you don’t have to use balance beads. Just if you have bead locks, that it seems to be a good work around. You can use a balanced beads on, on any tire wheel combination. Although I think if I remember the, the interview with counterbalance, I think it’s right counterbalance. Uh, I believe they were saying that it needs to be a sufficiently large, a large enough tire. Uh, I don’t think they work, the beads work too good on the, uh, passenger vehicles.
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So I just posted in the chat a video from YouTube of a guy who was testing out how good balance beads works.(…) And he had a GoPro inside the room.(…) I figured the weight that that would throw it off. And then when he spun the tire, the first time it was two ounces off.
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The second time he spun it, it was down to one and a half ounces off. So obviously the bead are working inside of a tire when it does, when I mean the GoPro is not light and amount.
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How is he controlling the, like one turn of the tire? If you just spend it one time, those beads aren’t going to level out. They have to have a certain amount of speed. Yeah. There’s a certain speed. That’s why you got to get to, but I mean, if you’re just spinning it, like you’re not going to hit, I know it’s on a balance machine. The video, the full balance run on a balance machine. He, he, there’s one video of the guy actually driving it because you can see the, as it was coming around, you can see the splat, the flat spot where it was on the ground and what the beads would do as they come around and hit, hit that. And, uh, and that was just the beginning of the video. So I’m not sure if he actually put it on the vehicle and drove it to, to see what would happen. And I have noticed, you know, I’ve got balance beads in minds and maybe that’s why they’re, maybe that’s why they’re cupping in front. I don’t know. But the only time I’ve ever had an issue with them where I felt like they clumped and that was when I used, uh, John’s, uh, air buddy or what, what do you call it? The, uh, power tank, power tank. I used his power tank, which freezes on it. Yeah. Which put that, that, yeah, which put that frost in there with them. And it was, it was, it was November. So it was colder. Now, as soon as the tire, you know, when I first took off, I could feel them, you know, not doing what they’re supposed to do. But as the, as I got going and the tires warmed up a little bit, all that went away and they, and they, you know, they were, they felt like there was balance perfectly. And who knows? Maybe that’s why I got the situation I got going on with my tires now, because I got balance beads in there, but I’ve never, you know, I’ve never felt them do any kind of wobble or vibration or anything. I’ve never felt any of that. So that’s, you know, I love maybe it just cause I’m, you know, I think, you know, I’ve been rotating them just front to back. I have not been crisscrossing them. So maybe that’s, maybe that’s where I’m messing up. I don’t know. All right.
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All right. Let’s jump to this last question. Do you use torque wrench when putting your tires on your Jeep or do you use the two UGA rule with the, the impact gun? That’s a, that’s a good one. And you know, it really depends on the impact gun. I mean, I had a Sears Craftsman actual air tool. And then I got that, I got that dam to Walt 899 and I stripped out some badass bolts, not on the wheels, but I, I mean some really, really big bolts and using that thing, holy crap, battery power, man. It’s just, you can do some damage with a good tool. Yeah. I’m, I’m laughing at Greg down there with, but I use, since I’m up here, I’ll just go ahead and say I use a torque wrench. Cause, uh, yes. Um,(…) I’m, I’m a, well, as soon as I understood the, uh, the process of that, that don’t say physics, don’t say physics, that’s physics of stretching that boat.
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Once I know that that, that, that lug or nut or whatever you call it, the, the boat itself actually stretches, then I’m like, Oh crap, I don’t want to be over stretching that mug cause I don’t want it to come off going down the road. Yeah. Well, and the, the theory behind using a torque wrench, uh, is, uh, you’re especially on the front or, well, I guess it could be front or rear. If you’ve got disc brakes front and rear is you can actually warp the rotor by, uh, not having this equal torque on all five or eight or 25 lugs.
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You can, you can warp the rotor, you can rope your wheel, you can overstretch bolts. Um, there is no reason that an impact wrench should ever tighten a bolt period. Um, all bolts have a nominal torque stretch and your lug nuts are no different. In fact, the, the half twenties that most of us see on our jeeps or, uh, even the 14 millimeters that the newer jeeps see, they’re designed specifically for a certain amount of torque they can take three times the amount of torque that it’s called for. Um, it’s very large bolt. They’re hardened bolts. They’re very good. However,(…) the wheel can’t take the extra torque. So, uh, a steel wheel with a, let’s say a half 20, the torque setting is typically 90 foot pounds and you should not go over it on an aluminum wheel. It’s typically 110 foot pounds because as the conical shape of a lug nut, and I don’t have one right here, but as the lug nut pushes into the wheels, the wheel has a conical hole and the lug nut has to push into it, you’re actually seating that with the 110. So it’s a nice seat.(…) If you over torque it, you know, if you go with the Oga Oga wrench and the Oga Oga wrenches today are so phenomenal that they can provide way more torque than it ever needed, right? Like, I mean, I’ve got a couple Milwaukee’s floating around that are well above 600 foot pounds.
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If you hit it that hard, you’re going to, it’s not that you’re overstretching the bolt, even though you can with the big ones today. It’s that you’re actually damaging the wheel. You’re causing micro, micro stress and micro fractures inside the wheel. If you’re over torquing, which means it’s going to fail sooner. So if, if you’ve overstretched that aluminum,(…) it’s going to actually allow the lug nut to get loose because it’s been over torque and over torqued and it actually pushed the aluminum out of the way on a steel wheel. If you over torque the 90 foot pounds, eventually you’re going to have a 20 foot pounds, eventually either the usually either the acorn or the lug nut or the wheel is going to get damaged.
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So you should always, always use a torque wrench because even with a four way, right? I mean, most, most of us are decent sized adult men and we can put, we can put down some serious force. If you’ve got a four way, that’s got a two foot throw on it and you put all your grunt into it, you’re going to be way above that 110 foot pounds. You know, you’re probably going to be 170, 180 foot pounds. Um, and same thing, you’re actually causing damage to your wheel and wheels are expensive. Don’t damage them. Use a torque wrench. Is there, do lug nuts have a, getting off the soapbox, do lug nuts have a life expectancy? I know that, uh, like head bolts, you’re supposed to sometimes there are one use or two use, uh, or lug nuts. Uh, the same thing. Do you have to worry about that whenever you’re rotating tires?
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It depends entirely on the lug nuts. So the construction of the lug nut is different in lots of different manufacturers. If you look at the typical acorn from the factory, it is a steel acorn with a chrome condom on top of it. So it basically has a cover that goes on it and then crowns at the end.(…) Those eventually fail, right? Moisture gets in there. They stretch a little bit and they fail. So some lug nuts are definitely not all lug nuts are not created equally. Some lug nuts, you can use them a thousand times and never have a problem. As long as you’re using the proper torque specs,(…) other lug nuts, like the factory ones or some others that have that, that shell, um, they are going to go bad. And when that, when that shell comes off, it goes from a 19 millimeter or a three quarter to an 18 millimeter, and then it doesn’t attach as well. Um, or it doesn’t come off as well with the right tool. But a good lug nut will last just as long as your wheel or your tire and can be used through 50 wheels as long as you’re torquing, if you’re using an Oga Oga wrench, even during removal, you are going to wear out the, the lug.(…) Because even when you remove it, a socket has all of these little heads on it. Right. And even when you’re removing it, those heads, if you’re using the Oga Oga, they’re going bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And it’s actually putting little micro fissures on the, on the lug nuts. So you will wear them out if you’re using a lug nut. So isn’t it true that you’re not supposed to use an impact on, uh, on the lug nuts? Is it, uh, you can take them off with the, with the, the impact, but you know, supposed to put them on. Uh, is that correct? Well,(…) you can take them off with an impact. You can, you can put them on with an impact as long as you’re very careful and you don’t over- Don’t torque it down. Do the torque by the torque wrench. It’s just spin them down. Not, not loose, but not, you know, Oga Oga. And, uh, didn’t take the torque wrench to it. But same thing. If, if you want them to last forever, you shouldn’t even use it to take them off because that bang, bang, bang, the hammer action is actually wearing off the surface. Right. Um, so if you want them to last, you know, 80 years, don’t use it. If you don’t care, lug nuts are cheap, right? Like lug nuts are super, super cheap. So who cares? Throw them away. Um,(…) you know, you can buy an entire set of lug nuts from wheel pros for like 25 bucks. So now if you buy them from Northridge or you know, Quadratec or other companies, they can be over a hundred dollars, but just go right to the stores, you know, get them right from wheel pros and they’re like 25, 30 bucks for a whole set.(…) And who cares? Throw them away.(…) Now, is that where you get the genuine lug nut brand lug nuts?
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Yeah.
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Okay.(…) I’d have to look, he says, yes. I, and Kevin probably knows more about me than on that, than that subject. A hundred percent, you know, you can go to wheel one or wheel pros or any of those and order lug nuts and they have, you know, 20 different brands and 20 different styles and 20 different locks.(…) Well, and there’s another thing you can get to like, to kind of work the medium of it, if you want to be able to use a impact, uh, gun, you can get a thing called a torque stick. Yup. Yeah. The torque sticks, but it’s still hitting, right? It’s still, it’s still, it is, but it does lessen the force where you’re, you know, once you hit that first, you can let all dramatically.
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Yup. So I think this is, I think this is what Rick was talking about. This segment of the show is brought to you by lug nuts. There’s nothing like lug nuts to secure a wheel to a Jeep. Get yours now and be sure to ask for genuine lug brand nuts for your Jeep wheels. That’s lug nuts. Who misses Josh? Josh was funny.
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What’s with the green screen tonight, Tony? Everybody wants to know. It’s their last week. It was, it’s been there for the last several weeks.(…) I know, but why? Cause I put in a background, uh, when I edit the, uh, the final video.(…) Oh, okay. Well, see, there you go. There’s an answer. Oh yeah. No, I just figured you guys knew, uh, knew that, but it’s been there for weeks and weeks, I guess nobody’s been noticing me. I’ve been cleaning up too.
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I mean, I noticed the videos afterwards. Yeah. I think they, I think they’re turning out really good. I’m really glad with doing the green screen and I can still put the, uh, the logos, uh, the sticker thing up, but it’s, it’s also just a background. All right. Anyway. Uh, so I think that, uh, the general consensus here is, is that it’s really, really good idea to use a torque ranch and torque the lug nuts on your wheels. Uh, there’s a lot of benefits to it. And, uh, also too, if you, if you love your Jeep, if you love your family, that’s driving a Jeep, uh, if you put the torque wrench on it, you know that each lug nut is torqued properly and it’s less likely to come off or, uh, uh, you know, back off, I mean, just, just because especially, I think this is especially true with an air impact, um,(…) uh,(…) thing is that it’s going to, depending on the air pressure, it may or may not be the same level of UGA. So put the torque wrench on there, we get it measured, uh, and, uh, get it on there the best way possible. Even if the torque wrench is off a little bit, it’s still going to be the same on every lug nut that you torque.
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Yeah. I personally, I before any big trip, anything more than 75 miles for crunch on every wheel, every lug, not just to make sure. Yep.
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Even if I’m pulling a trailer that just means more lug nuts to check. And don’t forget, if you’ve got beadlocks, you’ve got a lot more things to the torque check all those little bolts around that ring, you got to go and torque those as well to make sure they’re not, I got loose. How often do you check that, John?(…) Every time I rotate tires and every, well, every time I’m in the garage and I look down and I’m like, Hey, I got bolts there. Like I check them religiously, just, just because, you know, I know I don’t have to be locks in the street. Do you always let all the air out of the tire?
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No. Well, no, not before I broke them. It wasn’t in, it wasn’t in KMC’s like instruction. So I did it.
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I’ll give, I’ll give you some feedback. So there was a, one of the magazine editors, um, and this was circa like 2007, 2008, so you can find it.
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He decided not to pull the valve core out and was torquing his beadlocks.
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And the bolts had definitely started to give up the fight because they can only be torqued so many times.
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And the bolts came off like bullets and shot across the room. And when the beadlocks separated from the wheel, it crushed every bone in both of his hands.
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Always take the valve core out because one time you’re going to, you’re going to hurt yourself. Right. Um, if you’re standing in front of it, it can break both your legs. If your arms are in front of it, it will break your arms.(…) Um, but there’s, there’s been some magazine articles written about it. Um, and I want to say it was 2007. And I think it was Phil Howell that it happened to, but literally every bone in both hands and his arms were shattered when that beadlock let loose because he, and I think his tire was only at like 25 PSI. Thanks. I’ve been left so far. I mean, I really haven’t had to add any torque to them. Like they’ve all been pretty much on time, had it backed out at all. So the other big thing is make sure you have a piece of chalk or something. Oh yeah. That’s a shit load of bolts. And you will forget where you are. Three days later. Oh, holy shit. There’s a lot of bolts here. I actually, I use painters tape, painters tape, and I just put painters tape a next to every single one of them. And then as I talk, I might take it off. And then when I’m done, I go, if I’m like, when I’m putting them together, cause you got to go around several times, I just put it back in place and go around and take it off again. Sorry, Roger. We’ve decided it’s chalk. So you need to start using chalk. My wife is, my wife is a secondary teacher. I had plenty of chalk. I don’t know. Sorry, Jake. But yeah, the only beadlock that I found annoying was dirty life beadlocks.
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Go ahead, Jacob. I would say what I found annoying is with them dirty life beadlocks, the torque specs they provide you are not correct.(…) They were saying torque to 18 to 20. And I had one completely strip out at like 16. So I had to start, I had to torque all my, I had to torque all mine to, uh,(…) well, that was on the last wheel, but I now I’m scared. They’re all half stripped.(…) Yeah. The, uh, the KMC torque specs, I think it’s 14.(…) I have a quick quick reference on my phone. I stored all on a giggle sheet that pull them up with your specs and stuff. And I’m pretty sure it’s 14. Is that some KMCs I can open right here, but it could also just been a faulty hole. Like mass produced. It could just have been about a bad hole.
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Yeah, it could have been. But I usually anything that uses a five 16th bolt, I drill them all out and heal a coil every single hole before I start putting them together. That way I, you know, I’ve got a big heel coil in there. David, man. And then I can torque him to 30. Man, I know you know what you’re doing, but I don’t know how you get anything done with the tire rotations and drilling out holes and all that stuff, man. You, you go through, you go through a lot. Yeah. I used to make Tommy. Yeah.(…) Tommy, Tommy did a lot of it, but in the end when, when my customer drives away with their G, they know they don’t have to worry about not complaining. I’m just thinking about you. You spend a lot of time on details and, and you guys need to think about that. Cause I mean, I think that’s why I think that’s why Greg’s out there from 5am to 2am. Cause he’s, he’s drilling holes and stuff.
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So real quick, let me just ask this one real quick, being the host and all, uh, for the beat locks, uh, do you, on the bolts, do you put a lock tight on it blue? I’m thinking blue lock tight on the bolts. No, and I see. All right. Okay. Great. Go ahead.(…) Uh, and I see. Um, if you, if you lock tight your bead lock bolts, there’s a high likelihood. You’ve got a steel bolt and an aluminum hole. And if you add lock tight, there’s a high likelihood. When you go to take it out, you will take the threads with it.(…) I put anti-seize on every bead lock bolt always.
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Copper or silver?
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Silver copper, copper will kill you. Um,(…) I learned the very, very hard way. If you take a steel bolt and put it in an aluminum hole, you get a thing called galvanic corrosion.(…) If, if you put silver anti-seize, you don’t get galvanic corrosion. If you put copper, it is a third dissimilar metal and it speeds up the galvanic corrosion process. And you’ve created the battery in the process. I did a cheap.
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Yeah, I did a cheap in 2018 and I had, I bought a whole bunch of the copper stuff, cause it was on sale and we put them together a month and a half later, a different tire sponsor asked me to put their tires on and every single bolt snapped when I tried to take them off.(…) 32 bolts in every wheel. And then we had to, luckily there was a great machine shop, uh, went up to the machine shop, we had to drill every hole,(…) tap every hole, heal a coil every hole, and then put bigger bolts in. Um, so yeah, copper, anti-seize and aluminum wheel. I would highly recommend that nobody does that because that was miserable. So what you’re saying is when there were hours of hell, what you’re saying is, is that when somebody doesn’t pay their bill, you’ve still got a lot of copper anti-seize laying around.(…) I actually threw it all in the garbage after that. I was so dismayed. Oh, that’s a lot of work. Yeah. That was a lot of, a lot of, a lot of money there.(…) All righty. So, uh, I know you guys love just chatting about anything you want to chat about. So we’re going to wrap this thing up and let you guys get to ask my final question. Well, I thought that was you. That wasn’t you that asked the question. It was me. It asked the guy. I said, Hey, one quick question. Yeah. I said, go ahead, Rick. And then Greg started talking. So I figured you used to, you said, go ahead, Greg.
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All right. Go ahead. Yeah. That’s why he went ahead. All right. Damn it. All right. So torque wrench etiquette,(…) one click or two clicks.
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Oh, I thought you meant it was like, uh, be at the gym. You just wipe it down. Once you get done, I heard that anything more than two clicks is just playing. But being serious, if you’re getting the torque click out of fluid motion, one’s fine.
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Yep. Kevin is right. If you’re doing a nice smooth fluid motion and you’re not jerking, one click is fine. I’m retentive. I always do two clicks, but I also. After they’re all tightened and all clicked, I do them again, just to make sure because when you tighten one, it affects the torque of the room next to it. Right. You remove the tape. It would be locks.
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Do I always remove the tape?
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Yeah.
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No chalk. We don’t use tape anymore. So it’s only chalk. What about in high humidity?
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Oh, well then you got it. You got to jiggle the sweat off your balls between each. You got to jiggle it. You got to jiggle it. All right, everyone. That’s a wrap for this week’s Jeep talk show round table. A big thank you to all of our zoom participants, except for Rick. You guys made this so much fun and informative every week. And of course, a shout out to everyone watching us on YouTube. We appreciate you tuning in and make sure you like share and subscribe. I should have, I should have cued Greg to do that because he does such a good job with that. Remember, you can join us again next Tuesday, 7 30 PM central time for more Jeep talk, random questions, and always a few rabbit trails. Don’t forget to visit Jeep talk show.com slash contact to find out how you could be part of the conversation. Thanks again. And we’ll see you next week. Thanks guys.
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