From Trails to Real Life: Jeep Girls Talk Resilience and Independence

Join Natalie from Highlift Off-Road and Janet from Precision Graphics and Marketing as they dive into the world of Jeep girls on this special one-year anniversary episode of Chic Chat! Celebrating the fusion of style, adventure, and empowerment, the B Team shares real talk on Jeep girl energy, independence, resilience, and power. From conquering trails to balancing work, family, and the Jeep lifestyle, discover tips for off-roading, maintaining your rig, and building community in a male-dominated sport. In this episode, we cover: Defining Jeep girl energy: Independence, boldness, resilience, and power (0:00) Myths and challenges women face in Jeeping (5:45) Style vs. substance: Loving a clean Jeep while hitting muddy trails (10:30) Off-road maintenance tips: Avoiding rust, cleaning valve stems, and protecting your investment (15:20) Building relationships at parking lot meets and events (20:15) Shoutouts to inspiring women like Angie (Play JT), Lola, Amanda, and Wendy (25:00) Balancing Jeep life with work, family, and personal time (30:00) Planning trips, saying no to protect your time, and go-bag essentials (35:45) Overcoming personal challenges and the supportive Jeep community (40:30) No woman left behind: Tips for solo adventures and joining groups (45:10) Whether you’re a seasoned wheeler or new to the off-road scene, this episode is packed with inspiration for women embracing the Jeep lifestyle. Happy one-year anniversary to Chic Chat – look at us thriving! If you enjoyed this, hit that LIKE button, SUBSCRIBE to Jeep Talk Show for more episodes, and drop emojis in the comments to describe how this made you feel! 💪🚙💄 Follow the hosts: Janet: @charlie.jku on Instagram & TikTok Natalie: @gypsy_jk_red4x4 or @highliftoffroad on Instagram Check out JeepTalkShow.com for all platforms, including YouTube for the full video experience! #JeepGirls #WomenInOffRoad #JeepLifestyle #OffRoadAdventures #ChicChat #JeepTalkShow #WomenWhoWheel #JeepEnergy #OffRoadTips #JeepCommunity Rev up your engines, Jeep lovers— the Jeep Talk Show is here to take you on a wild ride! For 15 years, we’ve been the ultimate pit stop for Jeep enthusiasts, delivering off-road thrills, insider tips, and a whole lotta Jeep passion. With a powerhouse crew of hosts and team members, we’re dropping five action-packed episodes every week to fuel your Jeep obsession! Buckle up for our fan-favorite Chic Chat, a women-centric, women hosted episode that’s all about empowering female Jeepers. It’s the perfect space for women to dive into the world of Jeeps and off-roading, hosted by fearless ladies who live for the trail. But that’s just the start—we’ve got over 1,200 episodes waiting to rev up your day, whether you’re tearing down the highway, mowing the lawn, or pumping iron at the gym. Watch us on video or listen audio-only—your call, your adventure! Join the Jeep Talk Show family and become part of the ultimate Jeep community! Jump into our Discord chat at jeeptalkshow.com/discord, support us on Patreon for ad-free episodes at www.patreon.com/jeeptalkshow, or catch our live Round Table every Tuesday at 7:30 PM CT via Zoom (https://jeeptalkshow.com/roundtable, password: jeep). Stay in the loop with our newsletter at https://jeeptalkshow.com/newsletter and follow the action on Instagram @jeeptalkshow (instagram.com/jeeptalkshow). Head to https://jeeptalkshow.com to explore our world of Jeep madness, subscribe, and let us make your day a little more rugged and a lot more fun. Ready to roll with us? Let’s hit the trails together!#JeepTalkShow #JeepLife #OffRoad

Hi, guys, I’m Natalie with Hylft Off-Road, where you dream it and we build it. And I’ll be one of your hosts on this episode of Chick Chat. Chick Chat is the place where we celebrate the perfect fusion of style and adventure and maybe a little bit of grace most days. Deep has long been synonymous with ruggedness, freedom and the spirit of adventure. And who says women can’t embrace all that more? Right, Janet? That’s right. I’m Janet with Precision Graphics and Marketing, where you can brand your legacy. And Natalie and I are the B Team.

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I love that we do our little antennas.

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And I’m actually wearing B colors today. You are. So, appropriate.(…) It’s appropriate. It is very appropriate. I think we’ll have good topics for today.

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We’re going to kind of get this whole like Jeep girl theme. It’s real talk from the trail to real life. And we’re more than just Jeep girls.

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There’s a lot of substance under there. So what are we going to talk about first?

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You know, for us, Janet, what do we bring to the table? Energy. We bring energy to the table. Keep bringing energy.

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So really, you know, I feel like that can look like a few different things, right?

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But I think for both of us, something we’ve always talked about is how it’s created such an independence. Jeeping is really did that. Oh, sorry, guys. Turn your cell phones off. Oh, my gosh.(…) It reminded me too. Oh, my gosh. So I do like the Hunger Games. And that has been my text tone since it came out with what? Over 10 years ago, right? So I can’t change it now because then I won’t answer. You have to leave it. Because then you would ignore your phone. Honestly, yes. I think I do that anyway. But yeah, so, you know, for me, that I think a key word if I did describe a Jeep Girl energy is independence.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. And being bold, I think that’s, you know, really good energy to bring to the table. At least that’s what it’s meant for me when I started getting into this, you know, two and a half years ago.(…) And I think it’s only been a half years, by the way. I feel like you’ve been doing this, honestly, longer than me. Like I’ve been doing this very long, right? So it’s just, and I will now, oh my gosh, we’re on our one year anniversary. We are!

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Oh my God. Guys, sorry. I hate you right now. We have got off the highway. We’re in a rest area in the weeds. We will get back on track, I swear. But happy one year anniversary. I know! Look at us. Look at us surviving here.(…) Oh my God. We just keep on going. Yes!

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Paul Rudd said it best. Look at us. Look at us. Look at how good we’re doing. Oh, I know. And that’s been one year since your Colorado trip. That was your first big trip. Yes, I had a reminder on my stories yesterday of following Zabo back and getting caught in a hailstorm. Oh my God. Yeah, it’s officially one year. It is. Oh wow. Well, I love you. Thank you. And it only took us a year to meet guys, but we finally did. So it was fantastic. I know. Yeah, so that Jeep Girl energy. So what do you think is another word to describe Jeep Girl energy?(…) So I think it is about being resilient.(…) Ooh, yes. You have to be resilient.

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As we’ve talked about numerous times, this is a very male dominated sport currently.(…) And we are kind of paving the way for a lot of up and coming women Jeepers.

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You have to be able to have thick skin and you have to be resilient and bounce back when you get… And I was talking about this earlier. Again, another little segue, but I was talking about this earlier of how we’re not in the 1960s anymore. It’s the feeling of being talked down to. And we’ve mentioned this in another episode where it’s like you bring up your Jeep and they’re like, “Oh, is your Jeep pink?” Well, why? Because I’m a female. It’s got to be pink.

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Or do you know how to drive your Jeep? And we’ve talked about these myths in another episode, but we get that a lot. I mean, I was told to my face after completing some trails, like, “Your Jeep is too big for you.” What? What does that mean? Yeah, like what does that mean?(…) Exactly. Like the steering wheel is the same side. It doesn’t matter how big my tires are or the lift is. Like the steering wheel is still there.

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So I think you have to be resilient. And if you’re going to get all this going and you’re going to fall into these steps of going off-road and wheeling, you have to be resilient. Yes. I think that’s the way to describe it. Absolutely. Absolutely.

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I think that leads to the other, I think, great keyword of power.

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I do think both the independence and the resilience and the net equals the power. And it really does. I do feel so powerful when I’m in that vehicle and considering something. Yes, I do too. It’s a great feeling. And getting over those big, crazy obstacles, and then you get to the other side and you’re like, “I just did that.” Right. You’re like, “I just did that.” That is such a… Yeah. Because how many times I feel like when we’re on this trail, do we say that to ourselves? Like, “Did I just do that?” Yes. And please tell me somebody was recording.

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So much dash cam footage of the behind, if you know what I mean. Oh my God.

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Yes, for real. So yeah, no, I agree with you. And part of being a Jeep girl, because a swimman, we have style, right? We bring style no matter where we go. So it’s having the style versus substance. And it’s okay to love a clean Jeep. And we talk about this. We talk about this. It’s okay to have a clean Jeep and wheel it also and take it on these crazy muddy trails. You have sometimes you have no choice to go down a muddy trail, although we hate mud. We hate mud. Oh my gosh. Are you in the mud a lot? I feel like in Texas, you’re so… In that where I’m like mud central up here. This is why we fell in love. I fell in love with the Southwest. Oh my God. Yeah. I know. So we had the Outlaws Jeep of Texas just went to Hidden Falls, which is down by Austin this past weekend. And that’s where they had all that flooding and whatnot. So I think they still had a lot of large mud puddles. And they said you could see where the water line had risen. Oh wow.

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And some of them it looked like they were hard to avoid. And I’m like, no, thank you.

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And guys, let’s be clear. The reason we don’t like mud, it’s not because we don’t want to get our nails dirty or anything like that. It’s just, you have to take care of your vehicle after getting it muddy. Because that mud, the part corrosion, the rust, all the things. And so cleaning the vehicle is so important.(…) But that’s why we don’t really like mud because it’s a pain in the rear. It is. Sometimes at these parks, you don’t have a way to clean it off. So you’re having to air up. So a car wash or something to get it all off. It just creates a lot of work. And honestly, by the time you’re done doing trails, that’s the last thing you want to do is be worrying about any of that stuff.(…) So I like to ride in the trailer now. Because now you don’t really have to worry about that. So because you just pull right on top of that trailer, don’t you? That’s right. I pull on top of the trailer. And what’s funny is if I find a car wash, like this quarter washes, I’ll go out of town. I’ll just pull the truck, the trailer with the Jeep on top of it and just spray it down before we hit the road. And it makes it so much easier because you can see because it’s elevated now. Right. So it’s awesome. It makes it easier to get underneath and get all those, you know, with where in hot springs, especially, you get all these little tiny rocks. So when you’re spending your tires, they can get caught. Like my motor belt bumper in the back has this like empty area where things can just fall. Yeah. Yep. Excuse me. And those steel bumpers.

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And then you’ll see like all these little teeny tiny little rocks coming out. If you get just a tip to our viewers, if you get those little rocks like in paint crevices, like let’s say if you have stock fenders or fender, you know, and your rocks can get in there and with the vibration of your Jeep, it can.(…) You guys are watching on YouTube. The hand gestures right now are off the chain. I’m a very handy person.

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You got to see what I’m talking about. But the rocks get in there and with the vibration of you driving down the road, it can start chipping at your paint and you can clear your coat and do all that. So it’s best to clean it off when you’re doing that.(…) You know, that’s what we bring to the table. Like you see a lot of, you know, men coming up and some women, some women do it too, but you know, they come dirty and leave dirty. And I’m like, I will tell you, so many come to the shop dirty.

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And you know, I love you guys. I love the customers. But please, can you just clean your Jeep before you bring it in? My guys are literally being doused with mud some days. It’s like raining mud. Yeah. Yeah. You get the impact and start tearing stuff. All that vibration tears all that dirt and mud down. Yes. Something else I learned kind of randomly when it was airing up and airing down, especially after you get muddy,(…) I will take the air hose and spray out where the,(…) oh my God, I just totally blinked in what it’s called before you go to fill up the air with the valve, the valve stem. The valve, yes. So it cleans it out before you put, you know, the air tube on there. And I’ve done that where I didn’t and air wasn’t going in properly and mess up the valve stem. So even taking that quick air shot, it totally helps with the little nooks and crannies. Whoa. I know. I’m sorry. That was like the stage, stage five. No.(…) On the Richter scale earthquake.

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It’s like a seven point two. Four point two.

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For those of you all missing, if you’re watching it on YouTube or Spotify, I just smack the crap out of the table. My laptop is on and it looked crazy.(…) But you know, that is a good tip. So before you go to actually put the air back in the valve, even if you just push it just a little bit, like really slightly, it’ll put that air into it pretty forcefully and you’ll get all that crap out of there. The bar rocks are going to be terrible. For your Jeep and your paint job. So yeah.

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What else? Like what else with Jeep girl energy are we bringing to either just the trail or like these parking lot meets or so generally. I do love the parking lot meets. I think they really are important to keep building relationships because that’s what really blossomed. I think this whole community, especially during COVID, right?

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Social media really exploded the sense of community, especially for women, because we’re able to come out across the country. So like you and I, I never would have met you with social media and also the show. And thank you, Tony.

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And but you went to an event. Yes, there’d be a trail event or the pavement events. But that’s where we’re able to meet the women that influence us and inspire us. And it really helps, I think, hone in on what you want and how you can feel more comfortable as a lady jeepers. Right. For sure. And I think we both got to meet somebody that we look up to Angie, her play is JT. Yes. Oh my God. So cool. Love her. She is the nicest, the nicest, you know, I’ve met and her hair and her makeup is always on point. I ran into her over and over again at DJS. On the show, I was like, you know, hair all the way up. So it was just like slick back. I’m sweating. Here she comes by looking literally like she just stepped. It was just perfect. The entire and I’m like, I wish I mean, I’m just like, I look like a train wreck and I know I’m crunching on dirt and all the things and it is just perfect. Yes. And it’s not for her lack of wheeling. Like she will go out of her rig and she steps out and doorless. Right. And she’s looking like perfection. Like, how are you doing that? I know. I’m a sweaty girl. I’m a sweaty girl. Tell me the secret. Is it wax? Like what are we doing? So Angie, Angie, a little bit of something we got to know. And you comment and let us know your makeup and hair secrets because we want to know what this primer are you using? Yeah, no joke that that is the main one because I love greatly with the hotel room or the Airbnb and then like an hour later, I’m like, what happened?(…) What happened?

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Oh my gosh. And the chapstick. You got to have the chapstick at all times.(…) You got to have the chapstick. So yeah, Angie has been great. It was so wonderful being able to get we’ve interviewed her before, but it was great to meet her in person.

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We have, you know, there’s there’s always women that we’re looking up to. And for a long time, for sure. Lola forever.(…) Yes. And Amanda, who is a host on, you know, team A for Chick Chat. You know, I followed her for a while. And before I even got to really meet her and talk to her and now I really heard. Yeah. So cool. She’s wonderful. She, she will uplift you and she will push you and and and help you and support you. So she’s she’s done really great. So I love that. But it is Wendy. We still love you, girl. We have I know we’re in a while. But shout out to Wendy. She was an OG of the show and we are still going. So thank you. Yes, she is. We’ve been here for a hot minute and we just kind of came onto the scene a year ago. Amanda even less. And we just kind of try to keep this thing going. But you know, Wendy, Wendy is an OG wheeler. Yep. She is she is old school and she knows what she’s doing and she’s going to knock it out. And she’s going to tell you when you’re doing something wrong because it’s old school and she has every right to do that. So but I think she also tells you when you’re doing something right. So yes, she will. She will. She also coin the phrase Charlie Petal. I’ll never forget it. Coin the phrase Charlie Petal. After I was in hot springs on my little boulder, I was turtled on it. So yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Wendy. So I feel like that’s a great segue into our next topic about balance. Yes. You want to rock. Hey, I’m thinking of what you’re written down. I can read in the room. So I like it. So if that’s the work of life, work and the Jeep life, because it really is a life. This is not just a hobby. It is a lifestyle. You really do embrace it. It really is.

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When you start getting into heavier trails, more intense trails, trips across the country,(…) you start approaching things in your life a bit differently. Some people like Greg from, you know, he’s helped Tony out in the flagship.

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His daily driver is his wheeling rig and he’s got 45 inch tires and drivetrain and these thick axles and he drives that back and forth, you know, from home to the shop. That’s his, he’ll drive it across country to go wheel it. Like more power to him. I just can’t do that anymore. So you know, you start to.

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So your whole lifestyle changes, your finances change the way you plan things change. If you’re really immersed in this, like, you know, I was today looking at a calendar to plan for EJS 2026.(…) Yeah. When do I need to leave? When do I need to come back? Where are we going to stay? And where, you know, hey, Zabori, you know, you didn’t get that Airbnb. Yes.

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So, you know, he’s planning on doing Rubicon later this year. He is. Trail Hero. And, you know, I have some friends doing Trail Hero as well. I won’t be able to make it out there just because I’m limited on what I can do currently. But you made a good point. You have to plan.(…) Yes. This is not. Yes. So even the day trips, I feel like you have to plan. I know when I was doing Up and Backs, it was to our off-road park that’s close to me. It’s called Badlands in Attica, Indiana.

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And I would, you know, it was, it’s three hours away. So three hours there, drive all day, three hours back. And at the time I wasn’t even hauling. And so I feel like it took longer because you’re not going as fast.

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And it’s a major ordeal. Like, you leave at four in the morning, you don’t get back until 10 o’clock at night.

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It’s you. And then for me, I was always killed the next day. I didn’t want to get out of bed, but you have to take care of the Jeep. And sometimes I would let it sit like an idiot in the sun baking with mud all over it.

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I didn’t know. I didn’t know red. Red hates the sun. I’ve got, I’ve learned this. It hates sun. They were made really bad. The red ones made. I don’t know. Your color might too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my soft top hates it. So those vinyl windows, those plastic, the mud will actually suck the moisture out of those windows. And so it’ll leave imprints of the mud droplets on the window. The more you know.

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So I keep a spray bottle and those macrofiber towels in the Jeep. So as I’m getting off the trail, I will spray it and wipe it down just because I learned the hard way. I didn’t know that. I’m new to the soft top game. So I had no idea. Well, look at that. Thank you for that. Yeah. You want to get that mud off of there as quickly as possible. So yeah. So how are you juggling this, Janet? Because not only are you doing all this hardcore wheeling, but you’re also a mom. You are a student,(…) full time employed, and you own your own business. I mean, the key word juggling a million or key phrase juggling a million things I think is written across your forehead.

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Yes. I mean, what’s one thing you do? I got a monitor for every little thing that I do. That’s just not even half of it. So it really does take planning.

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When I first started out wheeling, I was going on a trip every month, it seemed like, just to kind of get that speed time. But at that time, I was only working one job. I hadn’t opened my business. I hadn’t gone back to school. So I had a lot more time, and my daughter would go with me on a lot of these trips. And I would teach her about wheeling. And now that I think I’ve gotten into more intense trails, I don’t do the lighter stuff anymore because it’s not worth my finances to load up the Jeep on the trailer and get the gas out there. So I’m more selective about where I go. Because also the Jeep is bigger. So the more intense trail, the bigger and more expensive parts, the more you have to pay to fix it when it breaks. So right now, I’m planning for EJS next year. I’m hoping to get at least a wheeling trip done in the fall. I don’t want to have this season go by without any kind of wheeling whatsoever. But we’re also looking at doing a possible axle swap this fall. So you have to take all that into consideration.

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Even Rocky, he’s screaming for me right now. What? Oh my gosh. More to come on the axle swap, guys. That’s another episode. Because Natalie is like, jaw on the floor. Yes. Oh my gosh.(…) Charlie’s already had, this is her second set of axles. And this will be her third. Oh gosh.(…) But is it to give us a sneak peek? Are you going to tons? What are we doing?(…) So not tons just yet. But I needed a wider, so JKs have a very narrow stance.

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And for being on a five and a half inch, six inch lift, I’m really tall with 40 inch tires.(…) So I feel very tippy.(…) And so I don’t want to obviously come down in my height because you need the room for the 40s. So JL axles are just a tad bit wider. They are. Will give me a little bit more of that stance and support that I need for a lot of these trails. So these are actually Mark Zabo’s old axles that he had before he went up to his coil over. So they are getting on Charlie. They are already built up with more stuff than I have now currently, but I’m going to have a little bit, even though it’s like a few inches are going to make such a huge difference on my willing. So I’m excited. Oh my gosh. I’m so excited. Can’t wait more to come. More to come. I’m more excited about getting monster valves on the Apex monster. Yes. Yes. Oh my God. Oh my God. It’s the little things like I just want like some I’m all about automation and like anything that I can do to make things faster. I’m really glad about it. Oh yeah. I love mine. So I feel you. Yeah.(…) So it’s just, it is just a matter of planning and trying to carve out time and finances to do everything. And it’s just difficult. It really is difficult. And so people are like, how do you do all this? I’m like, I don’t sleep. Yeah. But you need to sleep. You need to sleep. I get it. It’s funny. So I feel like my planning looks different because now that I’m doing this full time in the industry, everyone thinks I wheel all the time and I really don’t. Yeah. So Matt and I are going through the same thing. You know, my partner in crime wheeled more with Matt and Matt. We both never, it feels like gets to, we don’t get to wheel. So when we do wheel, yes, we’re having a great time with our customers, but we actually have to take the time and be thoughtful to plan stuff for ourselves too. Yes. And you know, that’s something that takes planning and do we, and then it’s like, you know, we’re doing this every day, living and breathing it. Is that how you want to spend maybe your one day off, you know, during the week, if that’s, or even after a few weeks, not having any time off. And yes, yes, it is. So you know, the planning is I think the key word no matter what you’re doing, you’re in it and immersed in it, or if it’s, it is truly, you know, your enthusiast, it’s your hobby.

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But it is a sport for sure. It’s more than a hobby. It’s a sport. It really is. A lot of money to do it. It is more than a hobby.

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Yeah. And there’s times that we have to say no. So when, you know, it comes down to it, have you found yourself in a position where you have to say no to protect your time because you know, you’re grinding on, you know, doing work all week. And then, like you said, you’re around you all the time. And then you have, you’ll get invited to a wheeling event. You’re like, do I really want to do that? I know. And then it’s like, then I feel like I miss out. Like there was one this past weekend and I wish my coworker had been more vocal about it because he would show me pictures this morning. I was like, why wasn’t there there? He goes, well, I told you a few weeks ago. And I’m like, oh my gosh, you need to tell me like more and more. Like, it was super cool. You’ve rained it up. Yeah. But it is funny. I have said no to wheeling more often than lately than I’ve said yes. And I hate that. So balance, balance,(…) balance.(…) There really does have to be balance. And it seems to like see everybody’s pictures when they come back. I had a friend that just went to Moab this past week. And they did Top of the World and Steelbender. And I’m like, oh, I want to go back. You know, hit the call. That you’ve done. I’m so excited. Hopefully next year. You never know. Yes. So I have friends that go there. Everybody’s traveling right now, especially to Colorado. Yes. Everybody’s going to Colorado. And I’m like, I swore I was going to go back to do Holy Cross this year to prove myself. And I haven’t done it. And I’m not going to be able to do it. So maybe next summer. But it’s hard because you have EJS, which it’s a whole week. And then trying to plan. Colorado really does take at least five days. Oh, I’m sure. Well, your travel day is alone. And then not only are you driving and mentally getting tired from that, but then you literally then are driving for the rest of the trip. Yes. It is definitely an adventure vacation. It is. You need a vacation when you get back. Yes. You need that vacation sitting on the beach not doing anything. Oh my God. Yes.

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I don’t have one living well. But yeah, but you do have to say no and protect your time.

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It’s like Mike from Platinum Off Road. And he gets invited to all these wheeling trips. And he goes because he does love to wheel. But also at the same time if somebody breaks, everybody’s looking at him to be like, hey, can you help me? Well, he does this Monday through Friday. So it’s like, well, you know. And he’s not going to say no. As most people wouldn’t. You know, like you’re going to leave somebody on the trail. So it’s just kind of hard. But do you have like maybe if you had like a– when we talked about what’s in your bag. But do you have a go bag ready to go? Like time saving stuff that if you decided at the last minute, like let’s go. And let’s do this. Dude, she’s here. This is my go to bag. I know I missed the roundtable last week, guys. Oh my gosh. Yeah, this is my little go to bag. And I think that always it stays in it. I just ran out of dude wipes. I have to replace them. But my gloves are always in here. So the gloves, I used to not wear gloves. Like when I would get out and do like line pulling and also unloading and loading the trailer, I used to not wear gloves. Oh my gosh, game changer. Yes. It does not mean that your hands can’t handle it. Literally, it’s the smart ones that are wearing gloves now. So yeah, this is my little bag. And I have to put my name on everything because– Of course. Why not? I know, right?(…) So yeah, so that is my gloves. I think my gloves are my go to now. Hold on. We’re going to see what’s in one magic pocket because I don’t remember.

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This was not fun. Oh my gosh. My favorite sunnies. Yes.(…) Also my go to the Blue Angels from Blenders. After they’re polarized and they’re like $55. So if you ruin them, you just get another pair. Right. I love it. You look– it looks very top gun-ish. Very top gun right now. Hey, Zebo.

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So that is my go to, a little bit of a rewind from the other day, guys. And thank you for joining the round table, everybody. Keep it going. Yes. Yes. We’ll have, I think, pretty sure have another one tomorrow night. Oh boy. And so hopefully we can see how many girls we can get on there and talk about some stuff. It’s good to get that listener interaction. So you’ll see us live on TikTok and just get in there and start asking us questions because we love it. Yes. We love it. We want to just talk to ourselves. We haven’t talked about possibly doing one underneath our Jeep to talk about what’s under there. Oh my god. And I’m like, it’s not fair because I don’t have a lift. So I’d be on my back. Oh yeah. Oh, I guess I would put me on the lift. I was like, oh yeah, I’ll get under there and just roll around like, OK. I guess put it on a lift. Put it on your trailer. That’s what you would do. Put it on the trailer. That’s true. But I have to go out to Amanda’s video. We would have to go all the way out. Take it to platinum. Be like, there you go. Here we go. I’m going to go to my round table from here. Just don’t mind me. Go do your thing. So what’s a quick hack that you do for time saving for either like having your go bag ready or do you have a Jeep ready bin that you can just literally grab, put in the back? What’s your go to hack? So I have a Jeep ready bin that I keep in the Jeep at all times. And it’s like a plastic container. And it has bug spray, it has sunscreen, it has band-aids, it has gloves, like medical gloves and my trail gloves.

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And then it has microfiber towels. So that stays in there all the time. And I don’t ever have to worry about is my stuff in there or not. Then I have an actual trail bag that has my radio, my GMRS. It also has my rapid deflator in there as well. And so that I can just grab and throw it in the back. Just throw it in the back and keep going. And then I have my toolbox is ready to go. It’s always just sitting right next to Jeep so I can get that and throw that in there. So– It really does make a difference, like having those things. I think it’s when you get back from the trail that sets you up for success for the next one. For sure. If you get lazy when you get back, it’s just not enjoyable. You just got to do it in real time, even though you don’t want to, because I know that’s how I do it. But man, if you don’t, that prep is just– it sucks. Right. You have to set yourself up for success. And even though you’re tired and worn out, just do it. Just do it. No matter what you make, what kind of trip are you– even if it’s a pavement event, setting yourself up, getting your Jeep always back to where it’s ready to go at a moment’s notice, I think really is important. And I’m guilty of it not. I mean, we all are. Right, of course. But there’s that balance again. Well, and I’ll tell you, so coming back from AJS, we went through New Mexico where there was a giant snowstorm. And they had treated the roads. I’m not used– if it ices here, I don’t get on the road. So I don’t ever have to worry about that. But I don’t think I actually rinsed off underneath the truck appropriately from whatever they treated the roads with. And I just had my tires rotated. And apparently, I have some corrosion. Oh, no. This is from April, OK? So I never got under there and actually sprayed all that stuff off. I mean, I’ve taken it to the wash. But they don’t think they have really good undercarriage spray off. So that is going to be– and what that’s going to turn into is a weekend project where I’m going to have to go and spray the underneath the truck, get a water brush,(…) clean all this stuff off, and then paint it to prevent that corrosion from going– and this is driving for a few hours on this road.(…) And because I didn’t do the proper maintenance afterwards, now I’m doing this. It is amazing how much it eats away. I mean, my Jeep isn’t that old. It’s a 2017. I got it in 2018.(…) And when we did the build last year, I mean, it was completely torn apart. And the amount of rust from me not properly washing it, especially after– I’m driving it in the snow in Ohio and all the salt. I had never known to make sure to wash it as much as you can.(…) I mean, the shop Jeeps here, they all get put away November 1. They are not allowed to go out. They will not leave the property unless they are hauled. And even then, they still will get a wash. So because salt is kicking up. But at first, I didn’t understand that. And I thought, oh, how silly. That’s why you have it, to drive it in the winter. No. Right. No. (Laughs) Yeah. So yeah, everything got repainted, brushed down. Like what you said, get the bristles, get all the rust off. And I mean, I couldn’t believe it. It’s great. Right. So when we stopped on the Texas-New Mexico border, we had gone through a quarter wash. But because the Jeep was on the trailer, I was able to get under there and spray everything off. I didn’t get under the truck. I didn’t even cross my mind. I was so worried about the Jeep. And now, I’m in this position where it’s 100 degrees outside. I don’t have to be under my truck for a day trying to take care of all this. And I’m going to be covered in black spray paint.(…) (Laughs)

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I get it. I totally get it. So yeah, it’s not a craft project. It’s actually protecting my investment. So–(…) I love that phrase. You know that, protect the investment. Protect the investment. It is. Oh my god. From the roads to the parts. It’s all an investment. Oh my god. It really is. And it’s just you’re investing in something that you love that brings value to your life, that helps you get through tough– you know, we’ve–(…) Natalie and I–(…) and it’s happened a couple of times here on doing the Chick Chat, even though we record every other week, life still happens. Like, it is hard to put pause on things that go on. So there were a couple of weeks, or even three, I think, that we just didn’t record. And it was really, really difficult. And we had to put on– we didn’t go wheeling. We didn’t do anything. And it just so happened– we happened to us at the same time. At the same time, I know. But I’m so glad, because I felt like– because I leaned on you. I think you were leaning on me. And that’s where this community, especially with women, when you find the right ones, it brings out the best in you. Yes. So good. And because of that, we’re able to bounce back, I think, a lot faster than–

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I’ve had my bouts back over many, many years. And it can be hard to pull yourself out of a run. We won’t get into too deep of a conversation on that. But just know that if you’re having to go through that, you’re not alone. We go through a few– we missed weeks for a recording, because we just didn’t– we didn’t have the mindset to do it. And y’all would have listened to it. The listeners would listen to it and been like, what is this? It would not have been good. It would not have been good. Honestly, it was like that yesterday. We both just– we– some lives came up. And it was like, Natalie, I can’t record. I’m like, I can’t either. I was going to text you the same thing. And it’s OK. Maybe, you know what? Let’s hold space. Let’s wait 24 hours. And now here we are. So that’s the best episode we’ve ever done. I know. It’s always about– every time I record, I’m like, that one’s my favorite. I know.

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I love it.(…) Something that you sent me, or I think you sent it to me, but it was describe how you feel about the episode with emojis. So totally putting the listeners to the test, wherever you are listening. If you can leave a comment, describe how our episode made you feel with emojis. I think it would be kind of fun. So– Yes. And try to decipher it and be like, what does that mean? I know, right? Oh my god. Yes.

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I know. Yeah. Oh, gosh. I mean, we– at the end of the day, we are women that are wheeling. And we have our ups and downs. And things happen. And we hope that any woman– wheeler that’s listening can identify and be like, you know what? That’s cool. You know, they do it too. And we’re not anybody special. We just happen to sit in front of a laptop and record every other week. We do. I mean, that’s a tough topic. So Janet, if someone wants to reach out to you, how would they do that? So you can find me on Instagram and TikTok under the same handle at charlie.jku.

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I post mainly videos of my Jeep. And then if you look out on TikTok, because I’ll post a video and be like, hey, we’re going live tonight. Because sometimes it is last minute. And we’re like, oh, yeah, we need to go live tonight. So look out. Just go follow me there. On TikTok, I’m so close to 1,000 followers. No, it’s amazing. It’s all organic. That’s the cool part, right? So– It is our journey. I haven’t paid for followers. I haven’t done any of that. So I’m seven people away from hitting 1,000. So please get out there. Yes. Yes. So yeah, that’s where you can find me. I don’t have any parking lot events coming up. I think we’re just going to try to finish out the summer. And I have a birthday. Yes, you do. I was getting there. Oh, I know. It was 10 days.

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Wow, is it 25, forever 25?(…) Yes.

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Forever 25. We need to have a clothing store like that. I could have stayed 35 forever.

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I’m not with myself. But I actually could have stayed 35 forever. So 35 was good. I liked it. 35 was good. With great wisdom, way over what you have in your 20s. Yes, absolutely. And I mean, sometimes I still– I feel 35, even though I’m not. So yeah. I mean, definitely the lessons were learned. But not about how to shorten your Instagram handles, because I have to have it pulled up right now to even– Do it later.(…) Oh, I did. Gypsy_JK_Red 4×4, but also the easy one, I lipped off road. So please, guys, come find me.(…) But we both understand if you need a little bit of support or you’re just helping the feels. So are we. Let’s go. Let’s go. And ask us questions. We love to answer questions. Anything that you’ve heard on the shows that you feel like you want more information on, we can get it to you or just talk to you about it or just be like, hey, we listen to your show. We want to hear about that too. Especially EJS. If you are a first timer, I think J.A. is a really good person to reach out to myself. Amanda, we all want to help you. We want to see you guys get to these events. They can be intimidating.

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And I know I don’t– it’s hard. It can be hard by yourself.(…) But it is so worth it if you actually do it. I just did something by myself on Friday. I went to a concert alone.(…) I’m so proud of you. I was proud of you. It was Dirk Spently. And he was amazing.

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And as someone I didn’t want to miss, and sometimes your friends are just busy. And my mom was out of town. She’s gone with me before. And I was sitting in traffic. And I’m like, what am I doing? On a Friday night, I was like, I didn’t have plans. They had a solo seat that was third row, super cheap. And I’m like, done. And the concert went eight minutes from my house. And I went on a date with myself. I love it. You want to put the dress on?(…) Yes.

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And I got a little emotional. I’m not going to lie. I’m not going to dwell on this. But it was very freeing. So it’s OK to do events by yourself, because you’re never by yourself.

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And that’s how it goes with this jeeping stuff. At the trailhead, it is intimidating when you first pull in. But man, it’s amazing. Right away, they’re like, hey, I’m Natalie. It’s nice to meet you. Or oh, I love your black wheels, or whatever. You start bonding. So you’re never alone in this and never think that you are. That’s right. If you’re going to go to someplace at Colorado, which is a huge, cheap destination, I would suggest joining. There’s a Facebook group called Colorado Off-Road Trails or something like that. And you can throw it out there and be like, I’m going to be there from this date to this date. And these are the trails I want to do. Can I run with anybody? Because I’m solo. And people will bring you into the group. And they’ll just let you wheel with them. It’s all the time. And the comments just blow up. Yeah, come with us. We’re leaving at 8 AM. It’s the most welcoming and forgiving community. When you find the right one. When you find the right one. You’re still going to run into some jerks.

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That’s unavoidable. But for the most part, especially women wheelers, I think we’re like, come on. Come on, let’s go. No woman left behind.

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Oh, what a great way, honestly, to end the segment.

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No women left behind. And that is it for this episode of Chick Chat. We hope you’ve been inspired by our stories, insights, and tips that Janet and I shared today. Remember, there are no limits to what you can achieve when you embrace your passion and fearlessly chase your dreams. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to the Jeep Talk Show so you’ll never miss an episode. You guys can go to JeepTalkShow.com. That’s where you can find all the different platforms that we are seen on. But definitely check out the YouTube because it is hilarious to watch.

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Remember to embrace the thrill of the off-road. Embody your own unique style and always keep pushing the boundaries of what you thought possible because anything is possible.

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Thank you, Natalie. Thank you, Janet.